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Doug Thorburn's avatar

In just three short years I've gone from "Vaccines have saved the world! Give me more!" to "Vaccines are the most successful psy-op in world history and, overall, do far more damage than good." The proliferation of censorship, lies, and deceit are expertly designed to prevent more from taking my trajectory. The gaslighting will continue until more of us begin to question everything.

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andrew adach's avatar

Have used your comment as intro to the good docs when I sent it to 60 others. Well stated, succinct and honest. Thanks

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Delighted. Thank you!

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Turfseer's avatar

DR. GASLIGHT. A doctor causes his patient to question her own sanity. Listen to TurfseerтАЩs hit song. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/dr-gaslight

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yantra's avatar

Great! the music is so cool, compelling and interesting with all the mode and chord changes, i hardly listened to the words at first but they are great too! I loved the adverse-curse-worse trio of rhymes.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Good stuff. I like the musicality, too. Nice use of what I think are minor keys, but feel free to correct me.

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Turfseer's avatar

It begins in a minor key and then starts alternating between major and minor.

Get my FREE PDF with links to all my music videos and original audio demos. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/add-ons-to-final-master-video-collection

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

That's the reason I like your music. My brain waves need minor keys in music for me to like the sound. It's weird, but annoying. When I "converted" my 6,000 songs from 500 CDs and LPs to i-Tunes, I only converted about 1,300--the rest of the songs were just "noise" to my brain.

It's annoying because there is so little music I truly love. The closest I can get in terms of genre is Nuevo Flamenco, a subcategory of, I think, "smooth jazz," which I like more of then any other genre. The classic for me is one of the live versions of Trista Pena by Gipsy Kings. Yet, much of their music I truly dislike. Another: I dislike most Beatles, but the early Beatles are mostly loved, especially Devil in her Heart. I'm weird.

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Turfseer's avatar

Well some are in minor keys and some are in major. Here's one in a minor key written during the lock down.

Edgar Allan Poe meets the specter of Jonas Salk and his polio vaccine in TurfseerтАЩs lockdown dirge тАЬNEVERMORE.тАЭ Listen to it here: https://turfseer.substack.com/p/nevermore.

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Clarence the Seventeenth's avatar

I read through this thread and resonate with your comments, though I started down the "vaccine risk awareness" rabbit hole in 2016, not long after I received an "Asperger's" diagnosis and was then told that the whole "autism epidemic" was due mostly to genetics, which made no sense to my mind. That, plus having spent time digging into other conspiracies throughout my adult life, made me mostly immune to the PSYOP-19 madness, though I must admit my embarrassment at falling into the fearmongering in the first couple of months of 2020 before I came back to my senses. Thankfully, my research over the years has had the result that most of our grandchildren are now mostly or fully "un-jabbed."

One of the most stunning, surprising, and disturbing journeys I've been on in this time was to read, early in 2020, and again just a couple of months ago (the new edition) the book VIRUS MANIA, which traces the history of virology and "viral" epidemics over the past century or so. PSYOP-19 is not the first time "they" have pulled such a stunt. They've done this many times over the decades. FLUVID was simply the biggest and most destructive example. It's an amazing expose of medical malfeasance and mass hysteria (the new edition has been updated to include PSYOP-19), and I recommend it wholeheartedly.

Thank you for your work in the world, speaking up as you have in your world and with your clients. That comes with some potential risk, and is a big deal. My own focus is on psychology and trauma and mass formation hysterias. How do mass hysterias come about? And how do we act to counter them? Speaking out, as you are doing, is a key.

I also follow and collect all the data points I can which show that, in fact, the people of this world ARE awakening to the lies and the madness. It's a slow process, to be sure, with lots of pain and fear to metabolize as we go along. But from my perspective, this is all coming out, and on a quick timescale compared with previous revelations, and there is much for which to be thankful and hopeful. Just the sheer number of lawsuits slowly springing up like mushrooms is evidence enough of bigger things coming, to my eye.

Again. Thank you.

Pax-Clarence

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sadie's avatar

fantastic! spread your story! I think people may listen better to those who used to be on the other side than from those of us who always doubted/disbelieved the govt.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

What's weird is I always questioned authority, especially government. As a long-time free market economist, I even understood regulatory capture, where the regulated capture (control) the regulators. What did not dawn on me was the utter lack of integrity among those in the private market--I had no idea it was anywhere near as bad as it is.

I was a little bit naive. Ok, a lot, considering I really should have known better.

You'll like this, too: I even mocked Andrew Wakefield as a likely alcoholic. Only a person with distortions of perception and memory, endemic to alcoholics, could have believed anything other than "vaccines saved the world." How wrong I was, and I sincerely apologize to someone I now view as among the greatest heroes ever: Andy Wakefield.

This is also the reason I consider the vaccine mythology to be the greatest psy-op in world history, even outdoing the absurd idea that property is the root of all evil. At least those living under Marxism didn't really believe in that contemptible, evil system. But nearly everyone believes in vaccines.

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sadie's avatar

Well, good... you give me hope for others to change their beliefs. Why did you change your mind - was it gradual or a bolt from the sky?

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Very few minds change instantly. It took a while. In 2020 I was fortunate to be a regular reader of Karl Denninger's Market-Ticker page. Brilliant guy with many very smart commenters. Both caused me to go down numerous rabbit holes about the dangers of masks, prophylactics and prophylaxes (IVM, hydroxy, et al), the history of viruses (they spread; everyone will get it) and enough on the history of vaccines to know I wasn't going to take this one (the least amount of time testing in animal trials was mumps, over five years).

I wasn't yet looking at other vaccines. I was too focused on what I view as the greatest mass hysteria in history, which is saying a lot (there have been plenty of such hysterias). I was also determined to be ready for the virus. By mid-2021 I had a stock of IVM, hydroxy, budesonide, etc. and learned about the other essentials (zinc, quercetin, NAC) and added my own (massive dosing of Vitamin C and beef bone broth--which works for bronchitis so I figured why not this, too).

I think it was early 2022 when I stumbled upon a key factoid: there were mass protests against mandatory smallpox vaccinations in the late 1800s. I asked a simple question: why were there mass protests against a vaccine that purportedly protected people from a disease with a 30% kill rate? I discovered the mass inoculations were causing mass outbreaks. From there I began to question all other vaccines.

Knowing a bit about the history of medicine also helped. I knew "carbs good, fats bad!" was a lie; I knew a bit about the idea that lobotomies were "the science" for mental illness. And I knew the story of Ignaz Semmelweis, which perhaps was key. I understood the arrogance of "experts;" it took a bit to admit, or realize, that too few have the integrity to admit their life's work might be inverted (as the "Inversionism" here on Substack but more on X might put it).

Another area of knowledge about which I knew little was propaganda. As an INTJ I'm a natural skeptic and never thought I could succumb to propaganda. And normally, I don't. But coinciding with my deep dive into everything Virus, I began inadvertently studying propaganda and found it was in every nook and cranny of medicine. Its breadth is truly a marvel.

Longer than you asked for, no doubt, and a bit rambling, in the nature of long comments (except for naturally good writers, which I am not).

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sadie's avatar

Good job! My scientist husband (and navy brat;) was not in any way inclined to believe poorly of science or the govt... whereas I had been raised on such ideas as the illuminati, club of rome, jekyll island .... so my initial response is distrust, wait and observe. I spent a good part of the first yr and a half of covid researching all the science articles to counteract what he was reading on msm... but I think it was when his Russian PhD colleague adamantly refused the vax that made him finally wake up and think twice.

I hope you can find many opportunities to share your story with those on the fence!

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Well, I do what I can. I wrote about the insanity of the lockdowns in my client letter in mid-2020 and, realizing you can't fight a mass hysteria and remain alive (or, in my case, keep all my clients should I say too much counter to the propaganda/narrative), stayed silent until a few weeks ago when I included one little thought at the bottom of the last page of the latest letter:

"A Note on the 'Vaccines'

"If you or someone close to you has been injured by the 'vaccine,' I urge you to save health-related documentation both before and after taking the vaccine. I believe the Vaccine Trials will be to the tobacco trials what a trial of a serial murderer would be to a trial over a parking ticket. Having good records may be crucial in the event you want to pursue legal action later and collect compensation for injuries or deaths. For once, I will support the trial lawyers."

I've got hundreds of tax clients (I'm an Enrolled Agent). I heard from one so far, who raved about a related part of the letter (I named my top ten Substacks in an explanation of "Substack"). Hopefully, the old adage that for every one who comments there are 250 others thinking the same thing will hold true. We'll see.

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Brandy's avatar

Speaking of propagandaтАж When advertising prescription medication on tv (and magazines) was made legal, pharmaceutical companies became the leading source of revenue for tv stations. This essentially allowed pharmaceutical companies to influence what news reports were or were not allowed to be aired and, I personally believe that pharmaceutical companies probably have a very strong say in which politicians get taken out during the primaries. No politician who intends to rein in the most corrupt industry on earth is going to be allowed to make it into the general election.

So people think that the government is pushing the propaganda but I estimate that pharma is really behind government sponsored propaganda as well as anything coming from media corporations.

I took my red-pill about vaccines in 2018 when one of my children asked me to research it out to see if I thought they were safe for children. I canтАЩt even explain my shock and horror as I uncovered the truth. I regret every injection I let them give my babies but at least my grand babies are protected. The silver lining to the pandemic response is that many people now know how badly we have been lied to. Some are still stuck in the lies.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

"pharma is really behind government sponsored propaganda"

Absolutely. That is part of "regulatory capture." The underlying problem, however, is that a mechanism exists whereby the "regulated" get a regulator to do their bidding. The regulators--the three-letter alphabet soup agencies--need to be abolished.

And yes, in the long run that silver lining may save the world. We only need to survive to see it.

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Brandy's avatar

I agree that those agencies are completely captured and need to be completely abolished. Should they be replaced by something? Probably. There needs to be some standards. WeтАЩve all learned that funding those agencies should not come from the corporations that they are regulating. So noted.

But, abolishing the public health regulatory agencies wonтАЩt actually solve the mess we are in. Operation Warp Speed was a DOD project. So we are in a real mess on multiple fronts.

And, even if those two massive debacles are solved, there is still the underlying root issue, which is massive levels of poor general health due to poor diet and lifestyle. Irrational fear of microbes and a complete embracing of ultra-processed food is what is fueling the power of big pharma. I figured out over a decade ago that my diet was making me ill and I havenтАЩt needed big pharma or the medical system since I took control. If people did this on a massive scale, the whole corrupt system wouldnтАЩt even need reform because it would collapse under its own weight. Not every disease can be solved with diet and lifestyle changes but the majority can. People have very little awareness of just how many diseases result from nutrient deficiencies and toxic build up. I understand because I wasnтАЩt aware for many years but the information is out there if people want to stop being controlled by pharma.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Then we are up against the utter incuriosity of most people.

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Brandy's avatar

Yes, I hold out little hope to actually solve the root issue of the crisis we are in. And itтАЩs not just lack of curiosity, its also a desire to use an easy button rather than making difficult changes. Staying willfully uninformed is a very popular position these days.

My daughter, who is a young mom, said that she doesnтАЩt know anyone her age who isnтАЩt on medication, except for herself. ThatтАЩs statistically staggering, even if itтАЩs anecdotal. All of my four siblings are on prescriptions and most, if not all of their children are on prescriptions. And when young women and men are suffering from all sorts of illnesses, itтАЩs unlikely for their children to escape the same fate.

Sadly, punishing huge swaths of big pharma for their crimes does not magically result in healthy people. It just means some other behemoth will step in and offer another easy button (pill, injection, surgery, expensive/invasive tests). And we stay in the same abusive cycle.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

The plural of anecdote is data, and the plural of data is "equivalent to and often better than a peer-reviewed study." So no, "even if it's anecdotal" understates the significance of your own observations.

We need far better education, which isn't going to come from government schools. We need to change minds. Unfortunately, that takes time--not only because it's always one mind at a time returning (or coming to) sanity, but because minds need time to change. Paradigm shifts are not something soft egos handle well.

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Doug Thorburn's avatar

Prevagen? For memory, but for eyes? Or prev... something else? I have not heard of this, but there is so much more to learn!

I added beef bone broth to my regimen (irregular when well; daily or more when fighting off anything or actually sick) when I discovered it stopped bronchitis. It is amazing.

They refuse to understand because of cognitive dissonance, low self-esteem and a lack of integrity. I don't convince them with any eloquence; they need time. And, as we can see, time is often not long enough.

I just turned 70. Welcome to the club, Junker, when you get there.

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yantra's avatar

yep.

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