I'm sorry that you believe experience is not important? I assume you discount my familiarity with home-schooling? Don't you think that's being just a little bit arrogant.? Do you actually know anyone who home-schools, or home-schooled individuals? Perhaps your public-school 'education' has not made you especially empathetic about other v…
I'm sorry that you believe experience is not important? I assume you discount my familiarity with home-schooling? Don't you think that's being just a little bit arrogant.? Do you actually know anyone who home-schools, or home-schooled individuals? Perhaps your public-school 'education' has not made you especially empathetic about other viewpoints?
Textbooks alone will not address the deeper moral abyss of public education. Textbooks can not replace parents, or parent's choices for their children.
By the way, who chooses which textbooks are used? What is their moral ethos? What is your view of John Dewey's (Socialist-Statist) influence on public-education?
I don't discard "your experience," but being educated in Europe, and having my son educated on this continent, I can see serious deficiencies with American education. As a result, my family had to pay for our son's private school for his last school years, and to hire tutors to keep up core sciences. There wouldn't be needed abroad.
I don't suggest "replacing parents," but you're no authority to me on the above and given your chip on the shoulder, you're unable to see the issue.
Meritocracy has nothing to do with "empathy." This "empathy" already got us into the current mess with 73 sexes, and schools pre-occupied with radical race theories and in my state, replacing core sciences with "social studies" and... choir. If we are to compete with other countries, we must get our kids education right, and this "feel sorry for me" won't cut it!
I see you're that you're a little bit angry, and defensive. Please forgive my 'chip-on-the-shoulder' attitude, I don't wish to offend. Perhaps we are both a little arrogant? When you say you were educated in Europe, where in Europe? Were you native-born and raised in that country, or in the USA?
Empathy is not about enabling poor judgment, or victimhood.
You have misread my comment. You seem to discount the moral compass argument? Your animus is misdirected toward me, and the home-school movement, when it should be directed at the Statist-Socialist expropriation of America's Public-Schools,.... government-intrusion,.. DNC-NEA-Teacher's Union--the largest Union in the US, collusion & graft,.. and agencies like the ED (Dept. of Education) with it's John Dewey philosophy.
You seem to say that book-knowledge 'alone' solves the problem, brings enlightenment, prosperity, and development/growth to humanity, ... wholeness to the individual and society? It's important.
But without moral-wisdom and Biblical truth, that approach is a fools-errand touted by Leftist-Statists for two centuries,.. seeding much Darwin-Hegel-Marx based destruction of humanity.
That knowledge-sans-morality philosophy is closer to a Leftist (Statist-Socialist-Marxist-Communist/Fascist) ethos, than of an Individual-Liberty ethos?
Maybe you have conflated much of what is actually 'cultural-Marxism' (the Woke---DEI, CRT agenda) into what you deem as lack of (or right) education. There is some truth in what you say about meritocracy, as well as sound-science in physical-sciences being undermined and usurped by deceitful 'indoctrinations' of Leftist 'Social-Engineering', and politically-acceptable speech & thought.
Though real science and truthful textbooks are necessary, these constructs will not be disassembled by changing the content of textbooks alone.
Those who are choosing the textbooks must also be considered. What they believe matters. And here is where we come back to the moral-compass dilemma? Which is the problem you fail to acknowledge, and which Home-Schooling addresses more directly, by leaving whatever 'social engineering' is to be done, to be left to the parent.
Is it your usual technique to brand someone's views as "angry," if you don't like them? My son is an adult now, my parental duties are done, per se. I have no skin in the current "game." I just feel sorry for the parents who are struggling and have it even harder than we had, and I was speaking from experiences about what's offered in terms of education here, vs what is/should be expected, to help the current parents.
Now, why would I be offering my personal details in an online chat:-)?
Please don't stir politics into education. It's already the main problem here as is, and you seem unable to get it and adding on Marxism in addition.
No offense, but you seem to be all over the place with your "views." I am talking about that the core sciences like math, physicals, biology, chemistry, etc., are being replaced in America with "social-whatever/theories" - it ruins American kids chances to succeed.
The textbooks competition entries could be blinded, and I'm sure there are plenty of parents, who would be able to distinguished what's "offered."
Angelina,... not a technique, just an observation you seem unaware of the anger (or fear) within your comments. I don't agree wholly with your view, but do agree partly with it. I appreciate the burden you feel for parents wanting their children to have a sound education.
Unfortunately, I think the reality of 'politics' is inexorably tethered to public-education, since government funding, agencies, and legislation are involved.
There's not a simple solution to this complex government-bureaucracy knot. However , Home-schooling is probably the best work-around at present. And the way that movement is growing is forcing government-schools to adjust,.. or simply go out of business.
And just as you are unaware of the inevitable 'politics',.. there's a huge insurgency of cultural Marxism undermining sound-curriculums? I agree that the core sciences are being undermined and neglected in favor of nonsense social-engineering in DEI-CRT (Diversity-Equity-Inclusion.. Critical-Race-Theory).. along with another 'Grand Deceit',... the theory of Man-Made-Climate-Change,.. which also is a 'political' faux-science deceit promoted by Statist-Socialist-Marxists.
This is not accidental, but intentional 'political indoctrination' into destructive demoralizing of America's (and the West) societies. And it's those who adhere to Socialist---or Statist-Communist-Fascist-Marxist-Islamist ,.. political ideas... who are adamant about indoctrinating American kids into those false beliefs.
You know Boyd, of course i am not sure, but it's starting to sound like you may be dealing with a non-human machine, not a flesh-and-blood woman with an angel name.
My son is an adult, graduated, settled. He didn't need tutors to fit the local standards LOL. He needed tutors for the much higher standards to achieve his full potential, and he did. He had 10 university offers, academic scholarships, won math competition @ prestigious university, we had deans calling our house.
I'm sorry that you believe experience is not important? I assume you discount my familiarity with home-schooling? Don't you think that's being just a little bit arrogant.? Do you actually know anyone who home-schools, or home-schooled individuals? Perhaps your public-school 'education' has not made you especially empathetic about other viewpoints?
Textbooks alone will not address the deeper moral abyss of public education. Textbooks can not replace parents, or parent's choices for their children.
By the way, who chooses which textbooks are used? What is their moral ethos? What is your view of John Dewey's (Socialist-Statist) influence on public-education?
I don't discard "your experience," but being educated in Europe, and having my son educated on this continent, I can see serious deficiencies with American education. As a result, my family had to pay for our son's private school for his last school years, and to hire tutors to keep up core sciences. There wouldn't be needed abroad.
I don't suggest "replacing parents," but you're no authority to me on the above and given your chip on the shoulder, you're unable to see the issue.
Meritocracy has nothing to do with "empathy." This "empathy" already got us into the current mess with 73 sexes, and schools pre-occupied with radical race theories and in my state, replacing core sciences with "social studies" and... choir. If we are to compete with other countries, we must get our kids education right, and this "feel sorry for me" won't cut it!
I see you're that you're a little bit angry, and defensive. Please forgive my 'chip-on-the-shoulder' attitude, I don't wish to offend. Perhaps we are both a little arrogant? When you say you were educated in Europe, where in Europe? Were you native-born and raised in that country, or in the USA?
Empathy is not about enabling poor judgment, or victimhood.
You have misread my comment. You seem to discount the moral compass argument? Your animus is misdirected toward me, and the home-school movement, when it should be directed at the Statist-Socialist expropriation of America's Public-Schools,.... government-intrusion,.. DNC-NEA-Teacher's Union--the largest Union in the US, collusion & graft,.. and agencies like the ED (Dept. of Education) with it's John Dewey philosophy.
You seem to say that book-knowledge 'alone' solves the problem, brings enlightenment, prosperity, and development/growth to humanity, ... wholeness to the individual and society? It's important.
But without moral-wisdom and Biblical truth, that approach is a fools-errand touted by Leftist-Statists for two centuries,.. seeding much Darwin-Hegel-Marx based destruction of humanity.
That knowledge-sans-morality philosophy is closer to a Leftist (Statist-Socialist-Marxist-Communist/Fascist) ethos, than of an Individual-Liberty ethos?
Maybe you have conflated much of what is actually 'cultural-Marxism' (the Woke---DEI, CRT agenda) into what you deem as lack of (or right) education. There is some truth in what you say about meritocracy, as well as sound-science in physical-sciences being undermined and usurped by deceitful 'indoctrinations' of Leftist 'Social-Engineering', and politically-acceptable speech & thought.
Though real science and truthful textbooks are necessary, these constructs will not be disassembled by changing the content of textbooks alone.
Those who are choosing the textbooks must also be considered. What they believe matters. And here is where we come back to the moral-compass dilemma? Which is the problem you fail to acknowledge, and which Home-Schooling addresses more directly, by leaving whatever 'social engineering' is to be done, to be left to the parent.
Does that make you nervous?
Is it your usual technique to brand someone's views as "angry," if you don't like them? My son is an adult now, my parental duties are done, per se. I have no skin in the current "game." I just feel sorry for the parents who are struggling and have it even harder than we had, and I was speaking from experiences about what's offered in terms of education here, vs what is/should be expected, to help the current parents.
Now, why would I be offering my personal details in an online chat:-)?
Please don't stir politics into education. It's already the main problem here as is, and you seem unable to get it and adding on Marxism in addition.
No offense, but you seem to be all over the place with your "views." I am talking about that the core sciences like math, physicals, biology, chemistry, etc., are being replaced in America with "social-whatever/theories" - it ruins American kids chances to succeed.
The textbooks competition entries could be blinded, and I'm sure there are plenty of parents, who would be able to distinguished what's "offered."
Angelina,... not a technique, just an observation you seem unaware of the anger (or fear) within your comments. I don't agree wholly with your view, but do agree partly with it. I appreciate the burden you feel for parents wanting their children to have a sound education.
Unfortunately, I think the reality of 'politics' is inexorably tethered to public-education, since government funding, agencies, and legislation are involved.
There's not a simple solution to this complex government-bureaucracy knot. However , Home-schooling is probably the best work-around at present. And the way that movement is growing is forcing government-schools to adjust,.. or simply go out of business.
And just as you are unaware of the inevitable 'politics',.. there's a huge insurgency of cultural Marxism undermining sound-curriculums? I agree that the core sciences are being undermined and neglected in favor of nonsense social-engineering in DEI-CRT (Diversity-Equity-Inclusion.. Critical-Race-Theory).. along with another 'Grand Deceit',... the theory of Man-Made-Climate-Change,.. which also is a 'political' faux-science deceit promoted by Statist-Socialist-Marxists.
This is not accidental, but intentional 'political indoctrination' into destructive demoralizing of America's (and the West) societies. And it's those who adhere to Socialist---or Statist-Communist-Fascist-Marxist-Islamist ,.. political ideas... who are adamant about indoctrinating American kids into those false beliefs.
You know Boyd, of course i am not sure, but it's starting to sound like you may be dealing with a non-human machine, not a flesh-and-blood woman with an angel name.
Oh, your son need tutors?
My son is an adult, graduated, settled. He didn't need tutors to fit the local standards LOL. He needed tutors for the much higher standards to achieve his full potential, and he did. He had 10 university offers, academic scholarships, won math competition @ prestigious university, we had deans calling our house.
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Something is seriously off with you