I tried every way I could to convince my wife not to have more than the two initial Pfizer shots we had at the end of Jan 2021 ending in Feb 15, 2021. Forced her to sit down and watch successful early treatments in Imperial Valley CA and Honduras. To no avail. She went ahead and got 2 more shots.
Now she is suffering from bursitis and tendonitis. Extremely painful. She heard from a friend that taking boron helped so she just started taking it.
I will forward this substack to her but even thought she is extremely well read on many diverse subjects including medicine and nutrition. She is so aligned with the safe and effective narrative that she would deny that the vaccines could cause injury.
This means that when I again suggest that vaccines might be involved in her current condition, I expect to be facing a blank stare. Even extreme pain in her own body is not enough to break through the ideology of the medical monopoly.
Sorry to hear this. My son got the shots and would not listen that he was healthy and didn't need them. Had heart issues and a PSA through the roof! Claims it wasn't from the injections. Closed mindset. Fortunately, all has reversed with strict nutritional changes. Also gave him NAC to boost liver health!
Wow - great job to help him recover. My son decided that all my years of counsel and evidence were worthless. He even told his little sister that vax are safe - she is NEVER vaxxed. Luckily, he is not harmed. But he refuses to interact with us ... Sad.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Many of us have similar people in our families who have even cut off contact with those of us who questioned the vaccines. The need to be in a particular tribe is strong.
yes, my family does not want any negative discussion
hubbs and I are banned from my younger daughter and kiddos bc my son in law is an angry arrogant dick -- 16 months now. So weird, we can not call talk text or email
If we do, they record everything. My daughter has been to a therapist for 200 hours!! she blames ME, but really, it is her husband.
Rosemary, in June of 2022, my older daughter, a children's librarian, e-mailed me that she was having lunch in her car in the parking lot of her library to take a break from mask-wearing. I hit the roof, assuming that the library was still making employees wear masks all day at work in 2022. It turned out it was not the library; it was her. SHE was wearing an N95 all day every day to "protect" herself. I told her, of course, that all the science showed there was no benefit to mask wearing, but much evidence for masks being harmful. She angrily told me I didn't know what I was talking about, so I sent her multiple PubMed sources showing that masks, including N95s, do nothing. She told me I sounded like a "crazy Republican" and that I was no longer allowed to speak to her about it. For two weeks I sent her multiple sources on both the left and right to show her it was not a matter of "political tribe," but actual science. When I got no response, I stopped. She hasn't spoken to me since. We had been extremely close all her life, but her mask was more important to her than any family member. I have no doubt that will continue indefinitely.
Linda. You are not alone. I am here right next to you.
Yes, hubbs and I have also been called names by many family members. It gets ugly but I keep my mouth shut. I do not think either of my daughters are masking anymore, but my younger daughters husband does not like to to have discussions, or be disagreed with. The whole thing is ugly.
Hubbs and I recently explained to them that we are almost 70 ,(two more years) and we are not interested in being set by boundaries, limits, rules or dealing with them using their children (adorable but I do not know any of them anymore) as a shield. It is tacky. I know it is my son in law. His family most particularly his mother and brother practice this shunning technique regularly on people. My daughter does not do this but she is now coerced into obeying. the whole thing is sad.
Meantime. I have had more time with my father over the past years without the pressure of drivng over there and getting into arguments about politics or shots or opinions. I am an olden RN!!! I took shit loads of chem. These kids are just stupid
My son and daughter, both millennials, also use this "no longer allowed to speak of this" tactic. They call it setting boundaries. I call it too immature to have a discussion about facts and to listen to opposing views. Of course, this does not work both ways. I have never and will never say to either of them, "You are no longer allowed to speak about fill-in-the-blank." Stupid? Yep, they're ate-up with it (as we cajuns say).
I am grieving my father. Last month sitting in his apartment, bearing sadness and exhaustion I texted my younger daughter and please call me with a heart emoji. I told her I needed her. No response. I called her phone which is never picked up when I call, it gets sent to an alternate phone ans service (weird and sad) and I left a sad message begging her to call me. I needed her support. I had been packing my dad's apartment for a month going through everything, throwing some things away, wrapping each treasure, boxes and boxes it was mentally and physically exhausting.
I get ignored.
That evening, at 7pm she called my phone. She identified herself and I said I was so happy to hear her voice. What did she say? "mom you are sick and you need help" I asked her why she thought that? did her "therapist tell her that?" or her husband? She again told me I was sick
I hung up on her.
seconds later she called my husbands phone and for 15 minutes she and her husband were YELLING
Kids these days are insane. Selfish and completely stupid.
Remember, you do not want them taking care of you when you are old.
This is the way the world is now.
I am sorry Rust. We are a generation or two of very shocking and tragic changes. We grew up with close family, I never fought with my parents. We disagreed on several things but we respected each other, we did not scold, admonish, or berate. This generation believes that they can do this.
What went wrong? How did our teachings of values disappear?
I think I know some answers but it is quite sad. Hubbs and I have learned that family is not important anymore, I guess. How much "honor" do we owe family? My sister is a thief cleptomaniac and a liar. My brother is an angry very bitter liberal leftist. My hubbs family are liberals, our inlaws of both son in laws are fairly okay. My older son in law has a very level headed set of parents. My younger son in law, his mother was a brat as a child, only daughter of brothers and daddys girl. She is very controlling and has many tendencies I see in Jerome.
We are just more alert now. We are preparing for our own lives now.
My daddy left me a sizable amount of money. Me and hubbs are gonna go see some relatives in Holland Mallorca and Austria. Then we are gonna sell the houseand move somewhere we can go cross country skiing and swimming and play with fun people.
I am a psychologist/counsellor - but I hate this BS of hiding behind "setting boundaries".... People set boundaries with a 3 years old - but - should talk through things with adults. I believe that the magazines and internet half educated "experts" giving out all kinds of opinions/advises causing this problem - helping nobody truly on the long run but their ego. My own daughter also doing this to me.... (hahaha or should I cry?) I am not permitted to argue with her or contradict her but she is listening day & night to these specialists. She believes I am a bad mother did nothing and know nothing ... but x y or z has the ultimate opinion. She is not even a millenial.....
I find such behaviour quite disgusting within the family and also very stupid. Children NEED their grandparents. These people I think are very weak persons - regarding their inability to communicate with others about subjects even if these are sensitive - they are not really adults....
Agreed. They are perpetual children, still holding onto ideas about the existence of unicorns: "equity", "fairness", and while I am here, socialism and fascism. Their need to control is pathological and frightening.
Someone at my library is a nut like your sister. She basically called me a plague rat and danger to her and everyone when I walked in without a mask when only her crazy director was enforcing them way after the crazy governor of my state dropped the unlawful mandate. I then asked them to put my material holds on a cart outside the door during an entire bad winter and spring. This ninny is still wearing a mask behind her own little plexi fortress. I rarely speak to her now since I only see clueless eyes in her face. I’m also waiting for the day I can inform her she can contract any respiratory disease, and Covid through her eye sockets and skin. Not just her pie hole and schnozola. BTW. I worked with these people there for 14 years until 2019. No joy there now.
Hey Janet - the LIBRARY was the ONLY place I was allowed to go here in Queensland, Australia, as a leper, er, unjabbed person. I did have to sign in, but I didn't have to show a vax pass.
Whew! I don't know who did that, but I was grateful.
Odd! In my experience, libraries are some of the “woke”-est places with the most propaganda, and librarians are some of the most propagandized/propaganda-minded people (I have several in my family). I was at the library yesterday and EVERY librarian was masked, even though it’s currently “low” transmission here in TEXAS. Only one was re-shelving books but the rest sat comfortably behind plexiglass.
Upon entering the kids’ section, the first books you see were “MASKS” (author wasn’t on the front cover) and “rAinbowZ” by Michael Arndt. In the flyers shelves, there were many copies of “The Junior Disease Detectives Operation: Outbreak,” courtesy the DHS, CDC TXHHS, USDA, and whatever is represented by a four-leafed clover with “H” on each leaf.
Many moms and kids were tightly-masked at this library as well.
She could also get bacterial pneumonia....from the mask...
But consider it on this way: these mask wearing people are practical - you could know from far away there is an ignorant person so you could easily avoid them...
I am so, so sorry to hear this. I pray she comes around and restores your relationship. I have no idea what that will take, because the denial is extreme.
People go to extreme lengths to protect their boundaries. Their very identity is at stake. And it is not just individual ego, it is their entire cosmology that is under siege.
They can't give up their trust of doctors and the health care system. If you can't trust doctors, who can you trust? If you can't trust drugs, what can you trust?
Their boundaries have been constructed over their lifetimes
Yesterday Pierre Kory's book "The War on Ivermectin" arrived. A series of battles. Gaining ground, but against Big Money, the current God.
You've hit the nail on the head. The psychology of this is so interesting to me. It IS their identity that is stake. I wonder at the foundational difference between someone like me who has forfeited my trust in doctors yet I am somehow steady on my feet with this rational and well informed decision, yet I know many people who doggedly persevere in their belief in the "authority" of doctors and take their decrees as gospel, unquestioningly.
These days they take that trust to their graves, sooner rather than later. I have little sympathy left for these random idiots. But do worry about my close friends and family. Children in this evils clutches the most.
The problem is the shedding - I understand the difficulty to change these people's fossilized brains but they affect everybody else with their shedding of spike proteins - and that is not funny when I sacrificed things to avoid vax but then I get it from them......
They trust the doctors... because they are "doctors" quite blindly after the past 3 years........instead of first examine what kind of doctors and persons they are and trust them AFTER. I trust myself - but as I know I am not a doctor however much I research.... I know this is a risky situation but at least I experiment on myself not on others. It is very difficult to try to be my own GP cardiologist and everything else.
The theory goes like this: appr. half of the population never reaches the levels of formal operational thinking - therefore could be missing abstract thinking, hypothetico-deductive reasoning, meta cognition moral reasoning. Simply certain people - independent from levels of education - missing the capability of thinking on higher levels.
I am seeing a concerted effort to do away with moral reasoning altogether. Not everywhere, but it has become alarmingly noticeable across all areas of society.
You are correct. The "denial" by those that been injured by the jabs is strong. My younger sister (58) developed breast cancer shortly after getting her first two jabs, but she refuses to link the two. I just played golf with a gentleman today who had to have one of his kidneys removed due to cancer in 2021. He has taken 4 Covid shots (two of them BEFORE the cancer was discovered), and he does not believe that the vaccines have anything to do with his cancer, even though he told me that there is no history of cancer in his family.
Yep, that's me. I'll be up in your neck of the woods in a few weeks to give a talk about our survey. You can get all of the details from Laura if you don't have them already.
You should have left her. She is delusional and dangerous. My wife and child know that if they ever take ANY vax, I will never communicate with them ... they have been warned. I cannot interact with such inanity and arrogance, and fool-heartiness.
It is like dealing with a drunk or junkie. You cannot stay with them when they are so toxic.
I was a medical student on clinical rotations during 2021 and 2022. The most memorable neurologic case I followed was a 36-year-old man who was hospitalized in February 2022 for evaluation of new onset neurologic symptoms causing significant weakness and functional impairment, such as limb weakness and balance problems as well as some sensory changes. These symptoms had been ongoing in previous months and resolved with steroids, but returned, precipitating his hospitalization. He had no personal or family medical history of neurologic or autoimmune disorders. Of note, he had received his first booster 3 weeks prior to his presentation at the hospital.
The patient had a mixture of neurologic findings localizable to different tracts, which is common with autoimmune demyelinating disorders such as MS. And his MRIs showed demyelination. However, a full autoimmune workup yielded no positive results. The neurologists following him figured that there are so many different proteins/antigens in the body and nervous system that one could develop antibodies to, that someone could have illness from antibodies towards a self antigen not included in the usual autoimmune or neoplastic panels. The patient consistently responded well to high dose steroids (which suppress the immune system) and plasmapheresis (which removes antibodies from the system), further supporting an autoimmune origin. He often asked if the Covid booster could have been related to his symptoms, and the neurologists considered it as a likely possibility in light of the otherwise negative workup. I remember clearly this kindhearted young man telling the team he had gotten the booster because he lived with his elderly mother and wanted to protect her.
Based on this reasoning, the patient was offered and agreed to start treatment with rituximab, an immunosuppressant medication. The next day, he developed respiratory failure from flash pulmonary edema, an extremely rare side effect of the medication (only documented in a few case studies). Ultimately he required intubation, developed a wide complex tachycardia with 2 separate cardiac arrests, had VA ECMO placed (an advanced life support system that essentially functions as the body's circulatory system), and was transferred to the ICU. After almost 2 weeks, the patient's family decided to transition to comfort care measures and the patient passed away.
The other student and I who had been following this patient were greatly saddened to learn of his passing. While it was not the proximal (or confirmed) cause, he became known among some of the students and residents who had followed him as "the man who was killed by the Covid vaccine". It especially saddens me when I think back to his reasoning for getting his last booster, protecting others, when the data showing that the vaccines did not prevent infection or transmission was already available months before early 2022.
We've seen quite a few cases like that (prior to the rutiximab).
In regards to what happened afterwards, I think that when the system is weak and stressed from the spike protein, side effects (e.g., flash pulmonary edema or all the heart issues) are more likely to happen, especially considering how the spike protein ruins the zeta potential of the body.
I've been watching that same marketing ploy be used for years with the pertussis vaccine (which also does not prevent transmission) to tell grandparents they can't visit their grandchildren unless they also vaccinate.
There is no question in my mind that each subsequent injection further degrades immunes system's ability to protect the body from the viral invasion. We are going down the wrong road in medicine.
Modern medicine has been going down the wrong road for a VERY long time.
Ever since the Flexner report and the restructuring of medical schools, the destruction and censorship of natural healing modalities way back when... in favour of petroleum based pharmaceuticals.
Point being, you need to do a full toxicological examination of any new drug entity, whether herbal, made from petroleum, coal tar, or whatever. I've worked as a medicinal chemist. A single drug candidate could have moieties from petroleum, coal tar, and even air, syngas (carbon monoxide and hydrogen), nitrogen, and acetylene. Sometimes even natural products like amino (emphysema drugs) and fatty acids (diuretics). Some (not that I worked with), things like hydrazoic acid (from ammonia, sodium, and nitrous oxide). Who cares about Sinclair's dinosaurs? (Oil actually derives from subducted algae.)
And no, I never worked with nucleosides or LNPs.
I suspect petroleum got a bad name in drugs because Rockefeller's scamsters peddled mineral oil as counterfeit watersnake oil.
Small molecule medicinal chemistry has gone way downhill. Repeal Durham-Humphrey! (Maybe IP in general.)
My children all accepted the injections out of love of parent and protecting me. I in turn, did not get the RNA because I knew my immune system was viable and the best defense. Had the man-made virus twice. First time laid low for 3 weeks. Second time 7 days. Last month had a one-day affair with a virus. Sounds to me natural immunity is the key. My children all bought the lie, and still got the virus. I also sensed the con. How do we stop the medicine man from playing with the blueprint of life with limited knowledge and permission to experiment on the human race?
They are adults and bought the propaganda that getting the injections would stop them from infecting me. It was out of love! Tell me how to stop the deranged medicine men!
Btw, my sister's sons both got vaxxed, not for her tho, she was totally against it and unvaxxed. I don't have kids and I'd like to think I would have brought them up better. Blessings in disguise.
They're adults as well. They bought the propaganda that they can make lots of money and be happy no matter who they screwed over. The only one we can change is ourself.
Initially, many students were ecstatic that they qualified for the early rollouts for healthcare workers. It was seen as a way to finally get back to normal (social events, traveling, all the stuff that young people like to do) after almost a year of isolation. I remember clear as day one male student seriously saying "I don't care if they put a microchip in me, as long as things go back to normal!" For the first booster rollout later in 2021, many got their dose before the mandates came in early 2022, seeing it as the socially responsible thing to do.
I remember in November 2021 a female classmate mentioning she was going to get her booster after that day's clinic hours now that they were newly available. Her rush seemed a bit odd to me since we were both about to self isolate for a couple months to study for the high stakes Step 1 licensing exam. She mentioned matter of fact that she was going back home across the country to her parents' house to study, and wanted to protect them. I just accepted this and did not mention how by that point the jab no longer prevented transmission of circulating variants.
I noticed some questioning began with the initial booster rollout. Another female student mentioned how the day after her booster she had a "aborted monster period" (she was off her usual cycle).
In June 2022, I heard third-hand of a student in a lower cohort who had an adverse reaction to his booster. This was a fit healthy young man who had recently recovered from covid infection without much issue. The deadline for the mandated booster was coming up, and his (standard allopathic) physician was concerned that getting it so soon after natural infection could cause an autoimmune response, something he had already seen in other patients. This physician documented his concern in a letter to the school requesting delay of the student's dose. The school gave an ultimatum: get the booster on time, or get it later as the doctor wished, and only be able to resume clinical rotations after another academic year. The student, not wanting to delay his schooling (or to accumulate another year of student loan debt), got the booster before the deadline. Previously a fit endurance athlete, he developed persistent respiratory problems such as exercise-induced asthma that significantly impacted his quality of life. Interestingly, his classmates who told me this story mentioned another classmate who got exempted because they "didn't believe in the vaccine".
After the initial booster I have not seen students or residents rushing to get more boosters. I am unsure how many will get the latest one that's being recommended for age 6 months and above (but only in the US).
Dreadful. This is what I MOST unable to understand - there is no logic in to say "I get the vax so I can travel/work/study..... when they get injured from the vax then they CANNOT travel/study/work... and plus they end up being sick.
Thank you so much for this thorough reply. So sorry to hear about the young man who, understandably, didn't want to accrue more student loan debt and has paid for it with his health.
What is most likely in your opinion to get through to students? Would they be open to the Daily Clout reports showing damage? Or do you think only if authorities in their school (or CDC etc which will never happen) acknowledge there are serious problems with the shots will they wake up/inquire? I am trying to figure out what can reach students in my area.
Again, much appreciation for your thoughtful reply. Best of luck with your studies.
I think ultimately (but unfortunately) it comes down to seeing adverse events in people they know or themselves. Presumably those reports would not be taken seriously and considered to be an untrustworthy source. This is what I have run into with non-medical friends who I have discussed these issues with. In one case the data did not change his mind as he found mainstream headlines to reinforce his views, but after suffering an autoimmune skin condition after his booster and being told by the allergist that other patients have suffered similar issues did he consider the safety profile may leave something to be desired.
My son in law was mandated (or lose your job) to get vax - got only one - ever since he is sick 2.5 years now. He was fully examined one week previously for his new job with Schindler including MRI - so it was clearly prove-able that the increasingly appearing missing myelin parts are new (=after vax) - in his brain and on his spine. He got progressively worse - sometimes he could not walk sometimes could not speak. They went to every possible doctor and I think now they saw 6 neurologists. Being in Australia doctors never acknowledged that his problems could be related to the vax. More than a year long he got no treatment as they could not decide on the diagnosis. Then he got some treatments of IVIG which helped but for only short times - but due to its costs was stopped by the doctors/insurance co. What I find incredible that now they give him cancer treatment.... and he is even more sick from this then before. I believe they are mistreating him - would I have any authority I would not permit. I argued with the couple for using dr. Wahls diet later to use the FLCCC treatments for vax injured - but they would not listen..."you are not a doctor". Sure, I would not inject him with the vax.
How can any vaccine be classed as lifesaving when there’s over a 99% recovery rate, it’s completely ludicrous to make that statement when the majority were not at risk.
As for the celebrities it serves many right for promoting this junk, all the others should speak out to save their health and sanity, they might actually find a lot of support from the public who swayed opinion enough to sink bud light.
What they say is - not the vax was created for the covid - but the covid was introduced for the vax.... Furthermore the vax is effective.....just not for getting better.
It was often lifesaving in 2020 and 2021, when the disease had a 2% fatality rate in symptomatic cases. 9% in Mexico. That is extremely high. But it was bioengineered and likely deliberately released. None of this needed to happen. But I remember large numbers of very sad cases of suffering and death from Covid from two and three years ago. The vaccine saved many lives in the first two years, while taking many others.
Please present a paper where the author used any falsifiable method to demonstrate that a virus caused an illness. (Keshan disease, aka a respiratory ailment with the same symptoms as Covid, was cured with selenium supplements. See Chen et al 1980). The papers on smallpox are maddening - all assumption and declaration - no evidence. (In the 1890s, Alastrim was named as a disease of mild smallpox, purportedly caused by a virus, variola minor - such occurred nearly 40 years prior to the invention of the electron microscope. And variola minor was defined before Iwanowski hypothesized that airborne transmission of a "disease-causing particle" could occur).
In re bacteria, how about an example? Have you read the papers on diphtheria? Do you know that tuberculosis (scrofula) was commonly diagnosed in conjunction with the craze of variolation and vaccination? (See Edward Jenner 1798; William White 1885).
It should be obvious that the notion of a disease-causing particle is a late speculation (given the current extent of human records on health), and has never been demonstrated via any falsifiable test. Any way, just please give one citation. I will read it. I am always ready to learn. Thanks
Two years ago the vaxxed were far less likely to die than the unvaxxed. I agree that there was always a high rate of adverse reactions, the spike protein used as antigen was always dangerous. But those who developed antibodies from the vaccine who would otherwise have died of Covid, were saved. Omicron was completely different and changed everything.
Dear Lizzy, there is no recovery rate from any "virus" because there is no virus. But most people who fall ill with a cold, flu, pneumonia, get well. Yet everyone dies ... so ...
As a physician I am legally and ethically required to report adverse reactions in the patients I see. The reporting system rejected my efforts. I can only wonder about the accuracy of some of the data we see.
Dear JCJ, as a chiropractic physician, vaccinations are not part of my license. From my training and understanding, I would not recommend vaccinations. Also, I am not a big fan of the germ killers such as Ivermectin. Instead I advocate boosting the integrity of the person's immune system. Such focus has been pioneered by the likes of Antoine Beauchamp and (from my Alma Mater) Dr William Albrecht. Albrecht researched and found that cattle were enabled to cure themselves of the scourge of the day, the bacterial infection, Brucellosis, by supplementing their diets with the trace minerals that he found depleted from the soil and therefore the food. With the advent of the "miracle" antibiotics, his findings were not popular. To be clear, the trace mineral deficiencies are only one part of immunity. Many working parts and persons will benefit most by boosting their weakest component.
Well, the ivermectin (which was prohibited in Australia) - in the form of horse paste (so I considered myself extremely lucky to get this) - saved my life when I got terribly sick from shedding.
Thank you so much. Please forgive me, if my message seemed rude or inappropriate. I advocate nutrition - minerals and vitamins, as well as mental health, breathing/exercise, natural sunlight, etc. Continue your good works.
Not at all! You posed essential questions deserving response. Looks like I wholeheartedly support all you advocate. Encouraging to see folks like you are around!
What I vividly remember from the initial rollout in 2021 was case after case of post-vaccination patients attending A&E with chest pain or palpitations and tachycardia. As they mostly attended A&E, I would not have seen them in my GP Surgery - just received the letters from A&E.
The standard of care in the UK NHS is such that they would be checked for myocardial infarction (serial ECGs and troponins); then dismissed as panic attacks. Some would have tachycardia that went on for months.
I do believe that cardiology diagnostics needs to be drastically improved in the UK. Cardiac MRI is rarely done but may well have picked up cardiac pathology in these patients.
In Australia patients can get 1 heart ultrasound in every 5 years....(except if they are in a hospital) - If in the interval you get a heart problem - bad luck.
My husband's co-worker experienced atrial fibrillation following his second Covid shot (in the initial series) in 2021. When he presented to the ED, he informed them that he had just received the shot a few days prior to which the resident physician literally waved his hands in the air and said, "I don't want to hear about the vaccine - it had nothing to do with it." They simply attributed the occurrence to the patient's age and sex (60 and male). Would love to review the record and see the medical decision making flow chart.
Why did this man not crush the hands of the MD and declare, "I do not want to hear about your hand injuries, my baseball bat had nothing to do with it"?
John, After reading your numerous responses, you seem to have some nasty sides to your attitude about a few things! Arrogance, control, and a few other words come to mind...
I periodically get complaints about John. My perspective is that I don't want to censor or ban anyone, but at some point if too many people feel he's being disruptive I will.
Disruptive? I send messages to promote dissemination of wisdom. Given that many people post "likes" and or offer positive and helpful replies, I thought that I am adding to your conversations and exchanges.
Basically a lot of your comments are accusatory and attack people (often in a way I don't think is correct), so it comes off to a third party that you are a troll. I personally think you are well intentioned but don't grasp how you come across.
I would rather say John has lack of patience with irresponsible idiots - with brainwashed despots with overinflated egos regarding their "doctor" status. (- and nobody liked the critic DD) Considering these people dismissive condescending styles when injured people suffer I rather can understand his anger.
Thank you for your comments. I hear you. I am dismayed whenever someone, like AMD, posits that vaccines (whatever their blend or secret ingredients) are somehow efficacious to prevent illness. Germ theory has been falsified, the now 200+ year history of injecting animals and humans with toxic brews is evident. There is no magic, oh well.
That aside, I must take issue with the idea of "arrogance." According to the Cambridge dictionary, arrogance is "the quality of being unpleasantly proud and behaving as if you are more important than, or know more than, other people."
I am not sure how my written texts are behavior, but ... I do not see any conveyance of pride (i.e., false pride). I do not tout my "importance." However, as a teacher, researcher, reader, and listener, I do posit that I have a wealth of information in re vaccinology, virology, and health.
I was first directed to AMD when he wrote a piece about smallpox and referenced Dr. Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. I thought that AMD would continue his journey into the depths of Jenner, critiques of Pasteur, and Flexner, the frauds of Sabin and Salk, and culminate with the wisdom of Lanka. Alas, our Beloved AMD either never reads critiques of virology or cannot understand the fraud.
As always, I am delighted to receive information or evidence that re-educates me, or corrects my mistakes, and or updates my knowledge. On the other hand, as I have a wealth of resources and a nice library, I am willing to share. I have posted my true email - more than once.
Don’t forget that both Biden and Kamala said that there was no way that they would get the jab during Trump’s tenure because they didn’t think they were safe because no one knew if there would be long term adverse effects from them. The whole shitlib cabal joined in with them and said that they wouldn’t take a Trump vaccine!
But did you know that CNN also had the same concerns about the jabs? But they too changed their concerns after Trump was out of office. How in hell can people flip their brains like that?
It’s almost as if a majority of our population has no memory or critical thought process, and just blindly follows the crowd.
Seeing the mind control for what it is, and its effectiveness was nothing short of revelatory. Although I’m leery of whatever else they’re cooking up in the bio labs, I’m more concerned about being badly outnumbered by sheep prone to panic.
If you watch America over the last 50 years, there has been a steady but gradual reducation of the American attention span. For this reason I often just can't watch TV now because of how quickly it breaks the continuity.
It also looks like a lot of Americans failed the test for whether they would have been the 'good Germans' if they had been in Germany during Hitler’s reign.
Yep that’s exactly what I’ve been seeing. People just blindly following the crowd. People on the left were against the Iraq war, but once Obama expanded the war of terror they suddenly got behind him and supported him. Once against big pharma, censorship, pro Assange and countless other examples they suddenly switched because it was their team doing the bad things.
I think it goes beyond critical thinking skills because a lot of the flip flops happened before the fake epidemic.
There is a very good book - the writer calls this situation "mass formation" a dangerous distortion of thinking by the masses: "The Psychology of Totalitarianism" by Mattias Desmet.
This has got to be the worst crime against humanity in world history, with 2/3 of the world population injected with this poison. It's quite frightening to see the people who orchestrated this doubling down on it and appearing to escape consequences for their actions.
Crime against humanity? There is a sucker born every second. ALL vax, given to babies - THAT is the crime against humanity. Forcing children to believe in "god" and reifying thugs as "government"; those are psyops of the highest degree. This was just a case of some people telling masses to drink mercury or put a gun to their heads. Who was stupid enough to do it? Not I.
"Auto-immunity" should be broken down as to all the conditions that are involved such as arthritis, food allergies, etc.. Inflammation is the larger category which anyone paying attention knows is bad news if you have it in a chronic form. Do you always know you have it? Hardly any disease condition is without symptoms.
I went to my annual physical today and was not pestered about the latest run of clot shots, possibly because I was profiled due to my comments last year at a different branch of their clinics. In the past they've tried to push a lot of things on me such as a colonoscopy as well as various shots, or a referral to a cardiologist due to the overblown condition branded "high blood pressure". At this point my sales resistance as well as much of the population is through the roof.
It's autoimmunity on many levels. The vaxx lipid nanoparticles were designed to get across every barrier in the body and they do. So we see spike expressed in blood vessels, and blood vessels are attacked. We see spike expressed in myocytes of the heart and heart is attacked, same with cells in the brain.
As Dr. Richard Moskowitz said in his fascinating book Vaccines, autoimmunity is in the very nature of the vaccination process. The covid vaccine is by no means an outlier. When you introduce any foreign substance into the sterile blood or nervous system, you provoke the immune system, which frantically produces antibodies to it, whatever it may be, triggering acute inflammation (encephalitis, nyocarditis) or chronic allergic or autoimmune systems, causing destruction of its own cells when that or a similar substance is perceived again. I reacted to my first DPT as an infant with screaming syndrome and Aspergers. I reacted to a tetanus booster at 19 with brachial plexus neuropathy, both arms paralyzed for several days, and sometimes paralyzing MS. My infant daughter reacted to the hep-B at hirth with screaming syndrome and autism. My father reacted to a flu vaccine with paralysis.
I now have disabling long covid as well as MS. I had a severe reaction to the Covid vaccine: myocarditis and Mast cell activaton. But disabling is disabling. Millions have been killed or disabled by the covid vaccine, but millions have been disabled, especially by autism, from the hep-B, DPaT, flu, Or MMR. Many by Gardasil.
When all this began, early in 2020 I read some worrisome things about the vaccines and autoimmunity. As a person with celiac disease, I was immediately worried and determined fairly easily to never get near these vaccines. If I accidentally eat gluten, I not only get digestive reactions but I also get joint aches. When I scrupulously avoid gluten, I get no joint aches. My celiac disease is connected to certain predisposing genes that I inherited from my mother. When I don't eat gluten, I don't get any of the celiac symptoms. My mother nearly died from CD in 1967. Her stomach and intestines were so destroyed (virtually no villi remained) that she eventually didn't absorb any nutrients from food and her weight was 89 lbs at the time she had the great fortune to meet a doctor who knew about the condition, unlike all her other doctors who just couldn't figure out what was wrong with her and who said her symptoms were "all in her head." She never ate another bite of gluten and lived in great health to the age of 95. Clearly that particular autoimmune condition is driven by what she ate, as are many other autoimmune conditions in my opinion. Manifestation of active celiac disease disappeared when she no longer ate gluten, and I'll add that she never got another autoimmune condition including arthritis.
When I heard about Megyn Kelly suddenly being diagnosed with an autoimmune condition by a rheumatologist, I'm assuming her problem relates to joints and arthritis conditions.
When I was intensively studying celiac disease, one thing I learned was that ignoring my one particular autoimmune condition of celiac disease and continuing to eat gluten could easily open the door to a great many other autoimmune conditions....over 200 of them, as I recall. If the so-called vaccines also open the door to autoimmune conditions, no telling what will happen with people whose immune systems are compromised by components in the vaccines. If people have predisposing genes that for whatever reason have not been actively expressed prior to the vaccines, it certainly seems possible that the vaccines could lead to sudden active expression of those genes. Getting sudden things such as arthritis and connective tissue problems seems like a strong possibility. I haven't yet read anything relating to an increased incidence of celiac disease, although it might be interesting to watch for that.
Celiac, RA and PMR were the three conditions that came to mind when I heard Kelly's story. The issue is that it's all completely speculative on my part and she isn't disclosing it, so I can't really assert it's this or that.
RA was my thought, too or even Lupus. It's hard because she is also at the age where declining estrogen might be having an effect on her overall health too but certainly there are specific labs which can indicate autoimmune disorders.
Dear NAB, If I jump off a cliff, and break my legs, is that a type of auto-immune disorder? What if I cut out my liver? Will I suffer and auto-immune disorder?
Megyn and her husband are public figures who limit what they expose of themselves (and their family members) on their social media accounts. I follow both of them on Insta because I admire them and like to hear about their projects.
. At $146 a copy, it is not a casual read. However the provided free sample text is enough to red pill any thinking person. The intersection of the first two tables is horrifying.
"Table I.1 - Typical pediatric vaccine schedule for preschool children" totals 27 vaccinations by the age of two.
and
"Table I.2 - Complete list of vaccine ingredients ... used during the manufacture of commonly used vaccines" lists the preservatives and adjuvants in each. (Typically listed for each vaccine are six to eight preservatives and immune system irritants.)
All included with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?
There is also a book about the history of vaccinations "Dissolving Illusions" by Roman Bystrianyk & Suzanne Humphries - very interesting to see their extensive research in it. Less expensive ~ 40.-
That was mine too - in this country I could not go to a doctor. At least in my home country they had choices among pfizer astra moderna - also Russian and Chinese. Furthermore they acknowledged the existence of immunity from previous co vida sickness - while in Australia they did not. Neither any kind of exemptions.
As an aside, There needs to be Many more doctors like you, or at least more education from your point of view. Then again, what made me not take birth control pills at an early age, not want to be vaccinated at an early age etc. One thing that saved me was not going to doctors except for a real emergency and educating myself about health on all levels. I am grateful to have listened to myself. And thank you.
Can we please cease with calling the bioweapon a vaccine? It is anything but, and so long as the lie that it is a vaccine continues to propagate, there will never be an end to this madness. Words matter, and people are happily going along with the fraudulent redefinition of what a vaccine is.
Also the other issue was that there wasn't another concise way to say it. e.g., "experimental gene therapy" is a lot more words that "vaccine" and the constant challenge I have with these is to not make them be too long.
Interesting. i found experimental gene therapy far too wordy as well, but I clearly went the opposite route on my terminology. I really do like your logic flow on this though. Speak to people in the 'language' they understand.
I tried every way I could to convince my wife not to have more than the two initial Pfizer shots we had at the end of Jan 2021 ending in Feb 15, 2021. Forced her to sit down and watch successful early treatments in Imperial Valley CA and Honduras. To no avail. She went ahead and got 2 more shots.
Now she is suffering from bursitis and tendonitis. Extremely painful. She heard from a friend that taking boron helped so she just started taking it.
I will forward this substack to her but even thought she is extremely well read on many diverse subjects including medicine and nutrition. She is so aligned with the safe and effective narrative that she would deny that the vaccines could cause injury.
This means that when I again suggest that vaccines might be involved in her current condition, I expect to be facing a blank stare. Even extreme pain in her own body is not enough to break through the ideology of the medical monopoly.
It's very sad to watch how many times things like that have played out over the last few years.
Sorry to hear this. My son got the shots and would not listen that he was healthy and didn't need them. Had heart issues and a PSA through the roof! Claims it wasn't from the injections. Closed mindset. Fortunately, all has reversed with strict nutritional changes. Also gave him NAC to boost liver health!
Thank you for sharing.
Wow - great job to help him recover. My son decided that all my years of counsel and evidence were worthless. He even told his little sister that vax are safe - she is NEVER vaxxed. Luckily, he is not harmed. But he refuses to interact with us ... Sad.
I'm so sorry to hear this. Many of us have similar people in our families who have even cut off contact with those of us who questioned the vaccines. The need to be in a particular tribe is strong.
yes, my family does not want any negative discussion
hubbs and I are banned from my younger daughter and kiddos bc my son in law is an angry arrogant dick -- 16 months now. So weird, we can not call talk text or email
If we do, they record everything. My daughter has been to a therapist for 200 hours!! she blames ME, but really, it is her husband.
Life is wacky
Rosemary, in June of 2022, my older daughter, a children's librarian, e-mailed me that she was having lunch in her car in the parking lot of her library to take a break from mask-wearing. I hit the roof, assuming that the library was still making employees wear masks all day at work in 2022. It turned out it was not the library; it was her. SHE was wearing an N95 all day every day to "protect" herself. I told her, of course, that all the science showed there was no benefit to mask wearing, but much evidence for masks being harmful. She angrily told me I didn't know what I was talking about, so I sent her multiple PubMed sources showing that masks, including N95s, do nothing. She told me I sounded like a "crazy Republican" and that I was no longer allowed to speak to her about it. For two weeks I sent her multiple sources on both the left and right to show her it was not a matter of "political tribe," but actual science. When I got no response, I stopped. She hasn't spoken to me since. We had been extremely close all her life, but her mask was more important to her than any family member. I have no doubt that will continue indefinitely.
Linda. You are not alone. I am here right next to you.
Yes, hubbs and I have also been called names by many family members. It gets ugly but I keep my mouth shut. I do not think either of my daughters are masking anymore, but my younger daughters husband does not like to to have discussions, or be disagreed with. The whole thing is ugly.
Hubbs and I recently explained to them that we are almost 70 ,(two more years) and we are not interested in being set by boundaries, limits, rules or dealing with them using their children (adorable but I do not know any of them anymore) as a shield. It is tacky. I know it is my son in law. His family most particularly his mother and brother practice this shunning technique regularly on people. My daughter does not do this but she is now coerced into obeying. the whole thing is sad.
Meantime. I have had more time with my father over the past years without the pressure of drivng over there and getting into arguments about politics or shots or opinions. I am an olden RN!!! I took shit loads of chem. These kids are just stupid
My son and daughter, both millennials, also use this "no longer allowed to speak of this" tactic. They call it setting boundaries. I call it too immature to have a discussion about facts and to listen to opposing views. Of course, this does not work both ways. I have never and will never say to either of them, "You are no longer allowed to speak about fill-in-the-blank." Stupid? Yep, they're ate-up with it (as we cajuns say).
exactly.
I am grieving my father. Last month sitting in his apartment, bearing sadness and exhaustion I texted my younger daughter and please call me with a heart emoji. I told her I needed her. No response. I called her phone which is never picked up when I call, it gets sent to an alternate phone ans service (weird and sad) and I left a sad message begging her to call me. I needed her support. I had been packing my dad's apartment for a month going through everything, throwing some things away, wrapping each treasure, boxes and boxes it was mentally and physically exhausting.
I get ignored.
That evening, at 7pm she called my phone. She identified herself and I said I was so happy to hear her voice. What did she say? "mom you are sick and you need help" I asked her why she thought that? did her "therapist tell her that?" or her husband? She again told me I was sick
I hung up on her.
seconds later she called my husbands phone and for 15 minutes she and her husband were YELLING
Kids these days are insane. Selfish and completely stupid.
Remember, you do not want them taking care of you when you are old.
This is the way the world is now.
I am sorry Rust. We are a generation or two of very shocking and tragic changes. We grew up with close family, I never fought with my parents. We disagreed on several things but we respected each other, we did not scold, admonish, or berate. This generation believes that they can do this.
What went wrong? How did our teachings of values disappear?
I think I know some answers but it is quite sad. Hubbs and I have learned that family is not important anymore, I guess. How much "honor" do we owe family? My sister is a thief cleptomaniac and a liar. My brother is an angry very bitter liberal leftist. My hubbs family are liberals, our inlaws of both son in laws are fairly okay. My older son in law has a very level headed set of parents. My younger son in law, his mother was a brat as a child, only daughter of brothers and daddys girl. She is very controlling and has many tendencies I see in Jerome.
We are just more alert now. We are preparing for our own lives now.
My daddy left me a sizable amount of money. Me and hubbs are gonna go see some relatives in Holland Mallorca and Austria. Then we are gonna sell the houseand move somewhere we can go cross country skiing and swimming and play with fun people.
The cultural standard is to not confront. That's "uncomfortable," and we can't have that.
The cultural standard, instead, is to report and cancel. Like in your family @Rust, if there's nobody to report to, then it's ghost protocol.
I am a psychologist/counsellor - but I hate this BS of hiding behind "setting boundaries".... People set boundaries with a 3 years old - but - should talk through things with adults. I believe that the magazines and internet half educated "experts" giving out all kinds of opinions/advises causing this problem - helping nobody truly on the long run but their ego. My own daughter also doing this to me.... (hahaha or should I cry?) I am not permitted to argue with her or contradict her but she is listening day & night to these specialists. She believes I am a bad mother did nothing and know nothing ... but x y or z has the ultimate opinion. She is not even a millenial.....
I can't believe this is still going on after almost 4 yrs! Truly they are hypnotized by and evil and angry spirit.
It's really something to behold.
I find such behaviour quite disgusting within the family and also very stupid. Children NEED their grandparents. These people I think are very weak persons - regarding their inability to communicate with others about subjects even if these are sensitive - they are not really adults....
Agreed. They are perpetual children, still holding onto ideas about the existence of unicorns: "equity", "fairness", and while I am here, socialism and fascism. Their need to control is pathological and frightening.
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Someone at my library is a nut like your sister. She basically called me a plague rat and danger to her and everyone when I walked in without a mask when only her crazy director was enforcing them way after the crazy governor of my state dropped the unlawful mandate. I then asked them to put my material holds on a cart outside the door during an entire bad winter and spring. This ninny is still wearing a mask behind her own little plexi fortress. I rarely speak to her now since I only see clueless eyes in her face. I’m also waiting for the day I can inform her she can contract any respiratory disease, and Covid through her eye sockets and skin. Not just her pie hole and schnozola. BTW. I worked with these people there for 14 years until 2019. No joy there now.
Hey Janet - the LIBRARY was the ONLY place I was allowed to go here in Queensland, Australia, as a leper, er, unjabbed person. I did have to sign in, but I didn't have to show a vax pass.
Whew! I don't know who did that, but I was grateful.
Odd! In my experience, libraries are some of the “woke”-est places with the most propaganda, and librarians are some of the most propagandized/propaganda-minded people (I have several in my family). I was at the library yesterday and EVERY librarian was masked, even though it’s currently “low” transmission here in TEXAS. Only one was re-shelving books but the rest sat comfortably behind plexiglass.
Upon entering the kids’ section, the first books you see were “MASKS” (author wasn’t on the front cover) and “rAinbowZ” by Michael Arndt. In the flyers shelves, there were many copies of “The Junior Disease Detectives Operation: Outbreak,” courtesy the DHS, CDC TXHHS, USDA, and whatever is represented by a four-leafed clover with “H” on each leaf.
Many moms and kids were tightly-masked at this library as well.
That is interesting - I just did not go anywhere ... for six months long - except walking and food shopping. (Sydney unvaxed)
She could also get bacterial pneumonia....from the mask...
But consider it on this way: these mask wearing people are practical - you could know from far away there is an ignorant person so you could easily avoid them...
exactly how I felt. A warning flag
Dear Janet,
I wonder if people at libraries bother to read the "science" as to see the truth about the frauds of virology and vaccinology? Sadness.
I am so, so sorry to hear this. I pray she comes around and restores your relationship. I have no idea what that will take, because the denial is extreme.
So sorry
Viruses, probably not (except in fomites). Dust and pollens, yes.
People go to extreme lengths to protect their boundaries. Their very identity is at stake. And it is not just individual ego, it is their entire cosmology that is under siege.
They can't give up their trust of doctors and the health care system. If you can't trust doctors, who can you trust? If you can't trust drugs, what can you trust?
Their boundaries have been constructed over their lifetimes
Yesterday Pierre Kory's book "The War on Ivermectin" arrived. A series of battles. Gaining ground, but against Big Money, the current God.
You've hit the nail on the head. The psychology of this is so interesting to me. It IS their identity that is stake. I wonder at the foundational difference between someone like me who has forfeited my trust in doctors yet I am somehow steady on my feet with this rational and well informed decision, yet I know many people who doggedly persevere in their belief in the "authority" of doctors and take their decrees as gospel, unquestioningly.
You'd be surprised how many people go through life with: "Just tell me what to do."
I always wanted to know why.
Herd mentality, some humans automatically resort to the perceived safety within the herd. Television programming has supplanted critical thinking.
These days they take that trust to their graves, sooner rather than later. I have little sympathy left for these random idiots. But do worry about my close friends and family. Children in this evils clutches the most.
The problem is the shedding - I understand the difficulty to change these people's fossilized brains but they affect everybody else with their shedding of spike proteins - and that is not funny when I sacrificed things to avoid vax but then I get it from them......
They trust the doctors... because they are "doctors" quite blindly after the past 3 years........instead of first examine what kind of doctors and persons they are and trust them AFTER. I trust myself - but as I know I am not a doctor however much I research.... I know this is a risky situation but at least I experiment on myself not on others. It is very difficult to try to be my own GP cardiologist and everything else.
The theory goes like this: appr. half of the population never reaches the levels of formal operational thinking - therefore could be missing abstract thinking, hypothetico-deductive reasoning, meta cognition moral reasoning. Simply certain people - independent from levels of education - missing the capability of thinking on higher levels.
I am seeing a concerted effort to do away with moral reasoning altogether. Not everywhere, but it has become alarmingly noticeable across all areas of society.
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That’s been my experience precisely. I’ve been cut off by all my family.
no alone John
You are correct. The "denial" by those that been injured by the jabs is strong. My younger sister (58) developed breast cancer shortly after getting her first two jabs, but she refuses to link the two. I just played golf with a gentleman today who had to have one of his kidneys removed due to cancer in 2021. He has taken 4 Covid shots (two of them BEFORE the cancer was discovered), and he does not believe that the vaccines have anything to do with his cancer, even though he told me that there is no history of cancer in his family.
This psychological phenomena never ceases to amaze me.
Hi Tom. Are you from Ohio? Had lunch with Laura on Thursday.
Yep, that's me. I'll be up in your neck of the woods in a few weeks to give a talk about our survey. You can get all of the details from Laura if you don't have them already.
Well, share this. Waking up is hard to do for some.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ra0HSilGaaU&t=10s&pp=2AEKkAIB
We have seen some help with homeopathy. Check it out.
Sorry Bro,
You should have left her. She is delusional and dangerous. My wife and child know that if they ever take ANY vax, I will never communicate with them ... they have been warned. I cannot interact with such inanity and arrogance, and fool-heartiness.
It is like dealing with a drunk or junkie. You cannot stay with them when they are so toxic.
I was a medical student on clinical rotations during 2021 and 2022. The most memorable neurologic case I followed was a 36-year-old man who was hospitalized in February 2022 for evaluation of new onset neurologic symptoms causing significant weakness and functional impairment, such as limb weakness and balance problems as well as some sensory changes. These symptoms had been ongoing in previous months and resolved with steroids, but returned, precipitating his hospitalization. He had no personal or family medical history of neurologic or autoimmune disorders. Of note, he had received his first booster 3 weeks prior to his presentation at the hospital.
The patient had a mixture of neurologic findings localizable to different tracts, which is common with autoimmune demyelinating disorders such as MS. And his MRIs showed demyelination. However, a full autoimmune workup yielded no positive results. The neurologists following him figured that there are so many different proteins/antigens in the body and nervous system that one could develop antibodies to, that someone could have illness from antibodies towards a self antigen not included in the usual autoimmune or neoplastic panels. The patient consistently responded well to high dose steroids (which suppress the immune system) and plasmapheresis (which removes antibodies from the system), further supporting an autoimmune origin. He often asked if the Covid booster could have been related to his symptoms, and the neurologists considered it as a likely possibility in light of the otherwise negative workup. I remember clearly this kindhearted young man telling the team he had gotten the booster because he lived with his elderly mother and wanted to protect her.
Based on this reasoning, the patient was offered and agreed to start treatment with rituximab, an immunosuppressant medication. The next day, he developed respiratory failure from flash pulmonary edema, an extremely rare side effect of the medication (only documented in a few case studies). Ultimately he required intubation, developed a wide complex tachycardia with 2 separate cardiac arrests, had VA ECMO placed (an advanced life support system that essentially functions as the body's circulatory system), and was transferred to the ICU. After almost 2 weeks, the patient's family decided to transition to comfort care measures and the patient passed away.
The other student and I who had been following this patient were greatly saddened to learn of his passing. While it was not the proximal (or confirmed) cause, he became known among some of the students and residents who had followed him as "the man who was killed by the Covid vaccine". It especially saddens me when I think back to his reasoning for getting his last booster, protecting others, when the data showing that the vaccines did not prevent infection or transmission was already available months before early 2022.
We've seen quite a few cases like that (prior to the rutiximab).
In regards to what happened afterwards, I think that when the system is weak and stressed from the spike protein, side effects (e.g., flash pulmonary edema or all the heart issues) are more likely to happen, especially considering how the spike protein ruins the zeta potential of the body.
I've been watching that same marketing ploy be used for years with the pertussis vaccine (which also does not prevent transmission) to tell grandparents they can't visit their grandchildren unless they also vaccinate.
There is no question in my mind that each subsequent injection further degrades immunes system's ability to protect the body from the viral invasion. We are going down the wrong road in medicine.
I agree, although the extent to which it happens highly varies person to person.
So many variables based on invasive life events from various pathogenic events that are unique to each of us.
Modern medicine has been going down the wrong road for a VERY long time.
Ever since the Flexner report and the restructuring of medical schools, the destruction and censorship of natural healing modalities way back when... in favour of petroleum based pharmaceuticals.
No question! They have created a Medical Titanic this time around that has grave consequences.
Great phrase!
Doesn't matter what they're made from. Some plants are rather toxic. Toxicology seems to be a forgotten art and science.
Of course.
I was referring to a specific event however, which WAS about petroleum based pharmaceuticals...
Point being, you need to do a full toxicological examination of any new drug entity, whether herbal, made from petroleum, coal tar, or whatever. I've worked as a medicinal chemist. A single drug candidate could have moieties from petroleum, coal tar, and even air, syngas (carbon monoxide and hydrogen), nitrogen, and acetylene. Sometimes even natural products like amino (emphysema drugs) and fatty acids (diuretics). Some (not that I worked with), things like hydrazoic acid (from ammonia, sodium, and nitrous oxide). Who cares about Sinclair's dinosaurs? (Oil actually derives from subducted algae.)
And no, I never worked with nucleosides or LNPs.
I suspect petroleum got a bad name in drugs because Rockefeller's scamsters peddled mineral oil as counterfeit watersnake oil.
Small molecule medicinal chemistry has gone way downhill. Repeal Durham-Humphrey! (Maybe IP in general.)
My children all accepted the injections out of love of parent and protecting me. I in turn, did not get the RNA because I knew my immune system was viable and the best defense. Had the man-made virus twice. First time laid low for 3 weeks. Second time 7 days. Last month had a one-day affair with a virus. Sounds to me natural immunity is the key. My children all bought the lie, and still got the virus. I also sensed the con. How do we stop the medicine man from playing with the blueprint of life with limited knowledge and permission to experiment on the human race?
How do you stop medicine? First you need to stop your own kids
They are adults and bought the propaganda that getting the injections would stop them from infecting me. It was out of love! Tell me how to stop the deranged medicine men!
Btw, my sister's sons both got vaxxed, not for her tho, she was totally against it and unvaxxed. I don't have kids and I'd like to think I would have brought them up better. Blessings in disguise.
They're adults as well. They bought the propaganda that they can make lots of money and be happy no matter who they screwed over. The only one we can change is ourself.
Dear TB, but there are not exogenous, contagious viruses ... so how can "injections" with poison, save you or me or anyone from dixies and fairy dust?
What a *heartbreaking* story, one I'm sure you and the other med student will never forget.
Has what's been happening opening the eyes of med students, in your opinion, or are they just swallowing the PR and getting their boosters?
Initially, many students were ecstatic that they qualified for the early rollouts for healthcare workers. It was seen as a way to finally get back to normal (social events, traveling, all the stuff that young people like to do) after almost a year of isolation. I remember clear as day one male student seriously saying "I don't care if they put a microchip in me, as long as things go back to normal!" For the first booster rollout later in 2021, many got their dose before the mandates came in early 2022, seeing it as the socially responsible thing to do.
I remember in November 2021 a female classmate mentioning she was going to get her booster after that day's clinic hours now that they were newly available. Her rush seemed a bit odd to me since we were both about to self isolate for a couple months to study for the high stakes Step 1 licensing exam. She mentioned matter of fact that she was going back home across the country to her parents' house to study, and wanted to protect them. I just accepted this and did not mention how by that point the jab no longer prevented transmission of circulating variants.
I noticed some questioning began with the initial booster rollout. Another female student mentioned how the day after her booster she had a "aborted monster period" (she was off her usual cycle).
In June 2022, I heard third-hand of a student in a lower cohort who had an adverse reaction to his booster. This was a fit healthy young man who had recently recovered from covid infection without much issue. The deadline for the mandated booster was coming up, and his (standard allopathic) physician was concerned that getting it so soon after natural infection could cause an autoimmune response, something he had already seen in other patients. This physician documented his concern in a letter to the school requesting delay of the student's dose. The school gave an ultimatum: get the booster on time, or get it later as the doctor wished, and only be able to resume clinical rotations after another academic year. The student, not wanting to delay his schooling (or to accumulate another year of student loan debt), got the booster before the deadline. Previously a fit endurance athlete, he developed persistent respiratory problems such as exercise-induced asthma that significantly impacted his quality of life. Interestingly, his classmates who told me this story mentioned another classmate who got exempted because they "didn't believe in the vaccine".
After the initial booster I have not seen students or residents rushing to get more boosters. I am unsure how many will get the latest one that's being recommended for age 6 months and above (but only in the US).
Dreadful. This is what I MOST unable to understand - there is no logic in to say "I get the vax so I can travel/work/study..... when they get injured from the vax then they CANNOT travel/study/work... and plus they end up being sick.
Thank you so much for this thorough reply. So sorry to hear about the young man who, understandably, didn't want to accrue more student loan debt and has paid for it with his health.
What is most likely in your opinion to get through to students? Would they be open to the Daily Clout reports showing damage? Or do you think only if authorities in their school (or CDC etc which will never happen) acknowledge there are serious problems with the shots will they wake up/inquire? I am trying to figure out what can reach students in my area.
Again, much appreciation for your thoughtful reply. Best of luck with your studies.
I think ultimately (but unfortunately) it comes down to seeing adverse events in people they know or themselves. Presumably those reports would not be taken seriously and considered to be an untrustworthy source. This is what I have run into with non-medical friends who I have discussed these issues with. In one case the data did not change his mind as he found mainstream headlines to reinforce his views, but after suffering an autoimmune skin condition after his booster and being told by the allergist that other patients have suffered similar issues did he consider the safety profile may leave something to be desired.
Logically - yes. But when they do not accept the connection - then not.
and then it is toooooo late.....
Thank you for sharing this tragedy. May it save another who is considering this fall's booster.
My son in law was mandated (or lose your job) to get vax - got only one - ever since he is sick 2.5 years now. He was fully examined one week previously for his new job with Schindler including MRI - so it was clearly prove-able that the increasingly appearing missing myelin parts are new (=after vax) - in his brain and on his spine. He got progressively worse - sometimes he could not walk sometimes could not speak. They went to every possible doctor and I think now they saw 6 neurologists. Being in Australia doctors never acknowledged that his problems could be related to the vax. More than a year long he got no treatment as they could not decide on the diagnosis. Then he got some treatments of IVIG which helped but for only short times - but due to its costs was stopped by the doctors/insurance co. What I find incredible that now they give him cancer treatment.... and he is even more sick from this then before. I believe they are mistreating him - would I have any authority I would not permit. I argued with the couple for using dr. Wahls diet later to use the FLCCC treatments for vax injured - but they would not listen..."you are not a doctor". Sure, I would not inject him with the vax.
Not the proximal cause? So, it was not the faulty brakes, it was the fact that you drove 150kph into a wall, because you had no brakes?
How can any vaccine be classed as lifesaving when there’s over a 99% recovery rate, it’s completely ludicrous to make that statement when the majority were not at risk.
As for the celebrities it serves many right for promoting this junk, all the others should speak out to save their health and sanity, they might actually find a lot of support from the public who swayed opinion enough to sink bud light.
I haven't had any vaccines in over 50 years...I wonder what has saved my life during all these fake pandemics ?
What they say is - not the vax was created for the covid - but the covid was introduced for the vax.... Furthermore the vax is effective.....just not for getting better.
The woke promoted the premise of 60% mortality, and still do. Perhaps now reduced from 60%, but far over 0.2%.
It was often lifesaving in 2020 and 2021, when the disease had a 2% fatality rate in symptomatic cases. 9% in Mexico. That is extremely high. But it was bioengineered and likely deliberately released. None of this needed to happen. But I remember large numbers of very sad cases of suffering and death from Covid from two and three years ago. The vaccine saved many lives in the first two years, while taking many others.
Early treatment may have greatly limited the number of deaths that were seen.
Sorry, often lifesaving in 2021. No longer relevant after Omicron, only dangerous.
Dear Cia Parker, uh, there is no virus, and no variant, and nothing contagious, so ...
What are the sources upon which you rely to declare that there are any exogenous, contagious, pathogenic viruses, for any disease?
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What can I say to someone who doesn’t believe that many viruses, bacteria, and fungi can cause disease? Nothing.
Dearest Cia Parker,
Please present a paper where the author used any falsifiable method to demonstrate that a virus caused an illness. (Keshan disease, aka a respiratory ailment with the same symptoms as Covid, was cured with selenium supplements. See Chen et al 1980). The papers on smallpox are maddening - all assumption and declaration - no evidence. (In the 1890s, Alastrim was named as a disease of mild smallpox, purportedly caused by a virus, variola minor - such occurred nearly 40 years prior to the invention of the electron microscope. And variola minor was defined before Iwanowski hypothesized that airborne transmission of a "disease-causing particle" could occur).
In re bacteria, how about an example? Have you read the papers on diphtheria? Do you know that tuberculosis (scrofula) was commonly diagnosed in conjunction with the craze of variolation and vaccination? (See Edward Jenner 1798; William White 1885).
It should be obvious that the notion of a disease-causing particle is a late speculation (given the current extent of human records on health), and has never been demonstrated via any falsifiable test. Any way, just please give one citation. I will read it. I am always ready to learn. Thanks
No co vida vax was ever life saving. Cannot be regarding their ingredients.
Two years ago the vaxxed were far less likely to die than the unvaxxed. I agree that there was always a high rate of adverse reactions, the spike protein used as antigen was always dangerous. But those who developed antibodies from the vaccine who would otherwise have died of Covid, were saved. Omicron was completely different and changed everything.
Dear Lizzy, there is no recovery rate from any "virus" because there is no virus. But most people who fall ill with a cold, flu, pneumonia, get well. Yet everyone dies ... so ...
As a physician I am legally and ethically required to report adverse reactions in the patients I see. The reporting system rejected my efforts. I can only wonder about the accuracy of some of the data we see.
Dear Dr. JU: Have you ever injected anyone with a "vaccine"? What was the "science" upon which you relied to justify your beliefs:
(a) that any illness was caused by a pathogenic microbe; qua germ, qua virus; AND
(b) that said injection - with whatever (including formaldehyde, aluminum, polysorbate 80, etc.) would assist the body to neutralize said pathogen?
Thanks for the reference.
Dear JCJ, as a chiropractic physician, vaccinations are not part of my license. From my training and understanding, I would not recommend vaccinations. Also, I am not a big fan of the germ killers such as Ivermectin. Instead I advocate boosting the integrity of the person's immune system. Such focus has been pioneered by the likes of Antoine Beauchamp and (from my Alma Mater) Dr William Albrecht. Albrecht researched and found that cattle were enabled to cure themselves of the scourge of the day, the bacterial infection, Brucellosis, by supplementing their diets with the trace minerals that he found depleted from the soil and therefore the food. With the advent of the "miracle" antibiotics, his findings were not popular. To be clear, the trace mineral deficiencies are only one part of immunity. Many working parts and persons will benefit most by boosting their weakest component.
Well, the ivermectin (which was prohibited in Australia) - in the form of horse paste (so I considered myself extremely lucky to get this) - saved my life when I got terribly sick from shedding.
Dear JU,
Thank you so much. Please forgive me, if my message seemed rude or inappropriate. I advocate nutrition - minerals and vitamins, as well as mental health, breathing/exercise, natural sunlight, etc. Continue your good works.
JCJ
JCJ,
Not at all! You posed essential questions deserving response. Looks like I wholeheartedly support all you advocate. Encouraging to see folks like you are around!
JU
What I vividly remember from the initial rollout in 2021 was case after case of post-vaccination patients attending A&E with chest pain or palpitations and tachycardia. As they mostly attended A&E, I would not have seen them in my GP Surgery - just received the letters from A&E.
The standard of care in the UK NHS is such that they would be checked for myocardial infarction (serial ECGs and troponins); then dismissed as panic attacks. Some would have tachycardia that went on for months.
I do believe that cardiology diagnostics needs to be drastically improved in the UK. Cardiac MRI is rarely done but may well have picked up cardiac pathology in these patients.
it still amazes me how this was not a red flag to my profession.
In Australia patients can get 1 heart ultrasound in every 5 years....(except if they are in a hospital) - If in the interval you get a heart problem - bad luck.
My husband's co-worker experienced atrial fibrillation following his second Covid shot (in the initial series) in 2021. When he presented to the ED, he informed them that he had just received the shot a few days prior to which the resident physician literally waved his hands in the air and said, "I don't want to hear about the vaccine - it had nothing to do with it." They simply attributed the occurrence to the patient's age and sex (60 and male). Would love to review the record and see the medical decision making flow chart.
Dear NAB,
Why did this man not crush the hands of the MD and declare, "I do not want to hear about your hand injuries, my baseball bat had nothing to do with it"?
John, After reading your numerous responses, you seem to have some nasty sides to your attitude about a few things! Arrogance, control, and a few other words come to mind...
I periodically get complaints about John. My perspective is that I don't want to censor or ban anyone, but at some point if too many people feel he's being disruptive I will.
Dear AMD,
Disruptive? I send messages to promote dissemination of wisdom. Given that many people post "likes" and or offer positive and helpful replies, I thought that I am adding to your conversations and exchanges.
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Basically a lot of your comments are accusatory and attack people (often in a way I don't think is correct), so it comes off to a third party that you are a troll. I personally think you are well intentioned but don't grasp how you come across.
I would rather say John has lack of patience with irresponsible idiots - with brainwashed despots with overinflated egos regarding their "doctor" status. (- and nobody liked the critic DD) Considering these people dismissive condescending styles when injured people suffer I rather can understand his anger.
Dear DD,
Thank you for your comments. I hear you. I am dismayed whenever someone, like AMD, posits that vaccines (whatever their blend or secret ingredients) are somehow efficacious to prevent illness. Germ theory has been falsified, the now 200+ year history of injecting animals and humans with toxic brews is evident. There is no magic, oh well.
That aside, I must take issue with the idea of "arrogance." According to the Cambridge dictionary, arrogance is "the quality of being unpleasantly proud and behaving as if you are more important than, or know more than, other people."
I am not sure how my written texts are behavior, but ... I do not see any conveyance of pride (i.e., false pride). I do not tout my "importance." However, as a teacher, researcher, reader, and listener, I do posit that I have a wealth of information in re vaccinology, virology, and health.
I was first directed to AMD when he wrote a piece about smallpox and referenced Dr. Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. I thought that AMD would continue his journey into the depths of Jenner, critiques of Pasteur, and Flexner, the frauds of Sabin and Salk, and culminate with the wisdom of Lanka. Alas, our Beloved AMD either never reads critiques of virology or cannot understand the fraud.
As always, I am delighted to receive information or evidence that re-educates me, or corrects my mistakes, and or updates my knowledge. On the other hand, as I have a wealth of resources and a nice library, I am willing to share. I have posted my true email - more than once.
biko97jcj (at) hotmail (dot) com
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It's comments like this that lead to comments like DD's:
"Alas, our Beloved AMD either never reads critiques of virology or cannot understand they fraud."
Dear Rust,
Please forgive me. I corrected the typo.
Don’t forget that both Biden and Kamala said that there was no way that they would get the jab during Trump’s tenure because they didn’t think they were safe because no one knew if there would be long term adverse effects from them. The whole shitlib cabal joined in with them and said that they wouldn’t take a Trump vaccine!
But did you know that CNN also had the same concerns about the jabs? But they too changed their concerns after Trump was out of office. How in hell can people flip their brains like that?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/eua-coronavirus-vaccine-history/index.html
I am continually awed by what can be accomplished with modern propaganda.
It’s almost as if a majority of our population has no memory or critical thought process, and just blindly follows the crowd.
Seeing the mind control for what it is, and its effectiveness was nothing short of revelatory. Although I’m leery of whatever else they’re cooking up in the bio labs, I’m more concerned about being badly outnumbered by sheep prone to panic.
Devices reduce attention down to about 6 sec.
You always remember only the last thing you heard.
If it is different to what you heard before, you follow the latter. It almost sounds like memory abrogation.
If you watch America over the last 50 years, there has been a steady but gradual reducation of the American attention span. For this reason I often just can't watch TV now because of how quickly it breaks the continuity.
Since I bought an ipad - I realized that my attention span shortened terribly.... also my eyes cannot stand it.
So, although it is very convenient for writing e-mails when it is dying I will not buy another one. TV - I do not own one more than ten years.
There are lots of articles about the dumbing down of American education... same here in Au.
It also looks like a lot of Americans failed the test for whether they would have been the 'good Germans' if they had been in Germany during Hitler’s reign.
A lot of us thought that too.
Yep that’s exactly what I’ve been seeing. People just blindly following the crowd. People on the left were against the Iraq war, but once Obama expanded the war of terror they suddenly got behind him and supported him. Once against big pharma, censorship, pro Assange and countless other examples they suddenly switched because it was their team doing the bad things.
I think it goes beyond critical thinking skills because a lot of the flip flops happened before the fake epidemic.
There is a very good book - the writer calls this situation "mass formation" a dangerous distortion of thinking by the masses: "The Psychology of Totalitarianism" by Mattias Desmet.
This has got to be the worst crime against humanity in world history, with 2/3 of the world population injected with this poison. It's quite frightening to see the people who orchestrated this doubling down on it and appearing to escape consequences for their actions.
Luckily NOT 2/3. UN-luckily the rest could be affected by the vaxeds' shedding.
If you've got info that contradicts this data, please share it. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Dear Sweet Mama,
Crime against humanity? There is a sucker born every second. ALL vax, given to babies - THAT is the crime against humanity. Forcing children to believe in "god" and reifying thugs as "government"; those are psyops of the highest degree. This was just a case of some people telling masses to drink mercury or put a gun to their heads. Who was stupid enough to do it? Not I.
"Auto-immunity" should be broken down as to all the conditions that are involved such as arthritis, food allergies, etc.. Inflammation is the larger category which anyone paying attention knows is bad news if you have it in a chronic form. Do you always know you have it? Hardly any disease condition is without symptoms.
I went to my annual physical today and was not pestered about the latest run of clot shots, possibly because I was profiled due to my comments last year at a different branch of their clinics. In the past they've tried to push a lot of things on me such as a colonoscopy as well as various shots, or a referral to a cardiologist due to the overblown condition branded "high blood pressure". At this point my sales resistance as well as much of the population is through the roof.
It's autoimmunity on many levels. The vaxx lipid nanoparticles were designed to get across every barrier in the body and they do. So we see spike expressed in blood vessels, and blood vessels are attacked. We see spike expressed in myocytes of the heart and heart is attacked, same with cells in the brain.
The adverse effects were so obvious so quickly, the media had to run stories about "That actually means it's working!"
It was quite the sight to behold.
As Dr. Richard Moskowitz said in his fascinating book Vaccines, autoimmunity is in the very nature of the vaccination process. The covid vaccine is by no means an outlier. When you introduce any foreign substance into the sterile blood or nervous system, you provoke the immune system, which frantically produces antibodies to it, whatever it may be, triggering acute inflammation (encephalitis, nyocarditis) or chronic allergic or autoimmune systems, causing destruction of its own cells when that or a similar substance is perceived again. I reacted to my first DPT as an infant with screaming syndrome and Aspergers. I reacted to a tetanus booster at 19 with brachial plexus neuropathy, both arms paralyzed for several days, and sometimes paralyzing MS. My infant daughter reacted to the hep-B at hirth with screaming syndrome and autism. My father reacted to a flu vaccine with paralysis.
I now have disabling long covid as well as MS. I had a severe reaction to the Covid vaccine: myocarditis and Mast cell activaton. But disabling is disabling. Millions have been killed or disabled by the covid vaccine, but millions have been disabled, especially by autism, from the hep-B, DPaT, flu, Or MMR. Many by Gardasil.
Thank you for sharing this. I hope this article was helpful to you.
When all this began, early in 2020 I read some worrisome things about the vaccines and autoimmunity. As a person with celiac disease, I was immediately worried and determined fairly easily to never get near these vaccines. If I accidentally eat gluten, I not only get digestive reactions but I also get joint aches. When I scrupulously avoid gluten, I get no joint aches. My celiac disease is connected to certain predisposing genes that I inherited from my mother. When I don't eat gluten, I don't get any of the celiac symptoms. My mother nearly died from CD in 1967. Her stomach and intestines were so destroyed (virtually no villi remained) that she eventually didn't absorb any nutrients from food and her weight was 89 lbs at the time she had the great fortune to meet a doctor who knew about the condition, unlike all her other doctors who just couldn't figure out what was wrong with her and who said her symptoms were "all in her head." She never ate another bite of gluten and lived in great health to the age of 95. Clearly that particular autoimmune condition is driven by what she ate, as are many other autoimmune conditions in my opinion. Manifestation of active celiac disease disappeared when she no longer ate gluten, and I'll add that she never got another autoimmune condition including arthritis.
When I heard about Megyn Kelly suddenly being diagnosed with an autoimmune condition by a rheumatologist, I'm assuming her problem relates to joints and arthritis conditions.
When I was intensively studying celiac disease, one thing I learned was that ignoring my one particular autoimmune condition of celiac disease and continuing to eat gluten could easily open the door to a great many other autoimmune conditions....over 200 of them, as I recall. If the so-called vaccines also open the door to autoimmune conditions, no telling what will happen with people whose immune systems are compromised by components in the vaccines. If people have predisposing genes that for whatever reason have not been actively expressed prior to the vaccines, it certainly seems possible that the vaccines could lead to sudden active expression of those genes. Getting sudden things such as arthritis and connective tissue problems seems like a strong possibility. I haven't yet read anything relating to an increased incidence of celiac disease, although it might be interesting to watch for that.
Celiac, RA and PMR were the three conditions that came to mind when I heard Kelly's story. The issue is that it's all completely speculative on my part and she isn't disclosing it, so I can't really assert it's this or that.
RA was my thought, too or even Lupus. It's hard because she is also at the age where declining estrogen might be having an effect on her overall health too but certainly there are specific labs which can indicate autoimmune disorders.
Dear NAB, If I jump off a cliff, and break my legs, is that a type of auto-immune disorder? What if I cut out my liver? Will I suffer and auto-immune disorder?
Megyn and her husband are public figures who limit what they expose of themselves (and their family members) on their social media accounts. I follow both of them on Insta because I admire them and like to hear about their projects.
Megan Kelly's Auto Immune issue is the tip of the iceberg! I bet if she got her blood value of Vitamin D measured it would be sub optimal. Need to be over 50 ng's Megan! The iceberg below the water line is discussed by Dr. Rennebohm as to what may be on the horizon for the vaccinated. If true, we will have another global worldwide lockdown because of injecting several billion people with the experimental RNA injections. NOT GOOD. Discussion is very detailed! https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/how-has-the-covid-19-mass-vaccination?utm_source=substack&publication_id=555295&post_id=137179269&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=bvdgc
Yes indeed
GVDB is brilliant and honest. I am so grateful for his knowledge
I encourage any reader who has not done so to follow the link to the "Vaccines and Autoimmunity" textbook:
https://www.amazon.com/Vaccines-Autoimmunity-Yehuda-Shoenfeld-ebook/dp/B014T25FX6?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
. At $146 a copy, it is not a casual read. However the provided free sample text is enough to red pill any thinking person. The intersection of the first two tables is horrifying.
"Table I.1 - Typical pediatric vaccine schedule for preschool children" totals 27 vaccinations by the age of two.
and
"Table I.2 - Complete list of vaccine ingredients ... used during the manufacture of commonly used vaccines" lists the preservatives and adjuvants in each. (Typically listed for each vaccine are six to eight preservatives and immune system irritants.)
All included with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?
At some point I am going to need to write a post up about that book.
There is also a book about the history of vaccinations "Dissolving Illusions" by Roman Bystrianyk & Suzanne Humphries - very interesting to see their extensive research in it. Less expensive ~ 40.-
Amazing article. Thank you for your hard work. I sincerely wish you could be my physician. .
That was mine too - in this country I could not go to a doctor. At least in my home country they had choices among pfizer astra moderna - also Russian and Chinese. Furthermore they acknowledged the existence of immunity from previous co vida sickness - while in Australia they did not. Neither any kind of exemptions.
As an aside, There needs to be Many more doctors like you, or at least more education from your point of view. Then again, what made me not take birth control pills at an early age, not want to be vaccinated at an early age etc. One thing that saved me was not going to doctors except for a real emergency and educating myself about health on all levels. I am grateful to have listened to myself. And thank you.
Thank you too. A large part of why I put the work I do into here is to provide those educational resources for other doctors.
I cannot image when do you have time to sleep....
Can we please cease with calling the bioweapon a vaccine? It is anything but, and so long as the lie that it is a vaccine continues to propagate, there will never be an end to this madness. Words matter, and people are happily going along with the fraudulent redefinition of what a vaccine is.
I do this because:
a) it's something everyone people can understand
b) I don't think regular vaccines are safe
c) I think the vaccine brand in general should suffer for being used to sell the mRNA shots.
Well, really can't argue that logic at all. Definitely get what ya mean when put this way
Also the other issue was that there wasn't another concise way to say it. e.g., "experimental gene therapy" is a lot more words that "vaccine" and the constant challenge I have with these is to not make them be too long.
I really hate that one as well - "therapy" also suggests to me something positive helpful - which neither.
Interesting. i found experimental gene therapy far too wordy as well, but I clearly went the opposite route on my terminology. I really do like your logic flow on this though. Speak to people in the 'language' they understand.