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I pinned your comment :)

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Bitterroot Services's avatar

thanks, I hope it helps half as much as your Sub Stack thaat inspired it helps:)

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rjt's avatar

I have three comments;

1) I have been disemployed since Oct. 26, 2021, after declining the ClotShot. Dr. Ian Thompson, in medical administration at Island Health in a jurisdiction visible from your state of Washington, informed me that there was no liability under the Nurnberg Code for the collective action of enforcing adherence to a medical experiment.

2) Medical students can easily answer any question for which the answer is provided. We were selected for that ability. An hour's lecture on the questions and the expected responses would only have been a distraction from learning the difficult content (neuroanatomy was a challenge for me, as were many other areas, but pharmacology was in my "wheelhouse" as they say.) So, ethics is actually not a medical school event, but a personal quality, as is empathy and compassion. Technical competence can be trained.

3) My experience with "Medical Protective Association" lawyers is not as you describe. There is a difference between being "represented" procedurally and being "defended." If you look at Dr. Trozzi's reports from Ontario you will understand why he engaged his own independent lawyer.

Thank you for your contributions and insight.

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If Island Health is under US Jurisdiction, Dr. Ian Thompson is sadly and badly mistaken about his statement "that there was no Medical Liability under the Nuremberg Code for collective action of enforcing adherence to a medical experiment." The Nuremberg Code speaks specifically about subjecting a human being to an experimental drug and it is a Crime if certain safeguards such as complete informed consent are not followed. It is highly likely that the cases of complete informed consent with regard to the Covid-19 vaccines are extremely few and very far between. You don't get informed consent when you have a victim (as opposed to a patient) stick his or her arm out of a car window at a drive-up vaccine center and a Health Care professional jabs them and they receive a card saying they have been jabbed.

I agree that "Ethics" is not a traditional Medical School event. I'll let you in on a story from my Anesthesia Experience and a Mal-Practice Law Suite I was involved in to show why ethics needs to be a Medical School Event:

"It was a busy weekend on call. I had spent the majority of it in the hospital with emergency surgeries. One was a 7 year old boy with appendicitis, retro-cecal and adhering to be back side of the Cecum requiring careful "teasing off." In normal fashion, after the appendix was removed, the small bowel was run to check for a Meckle's and none being found the Cecum was again checked and a small, about the size of a man's thumb nail hematoma was found on the backside that did not appear to be enlarging.

After this surgery , there was a C-section in OB and then I went back up to the surgical floor to check on the 7 year old boy who had the appendectomy. He sitting up in bed crying and holding his right side. I asked him what was the matter and he said 'it hurts bad.' So he was obviously alert and recognizing pain. The nurse came in with a pain shot and I made a note on his chart and went home for a few hours sleep. It was about 4 am on a Sunday morning at that time.

"At about 7 am my phone rang. They were taking the 7 year old back to surgery for bleeding. It took me less than 15 minutes to reach the hospital and find a pale, 7 year old with no radial pulse and an apical pulse of over 200/minute and respiratory rate of 40/minute with a "flared platisma muscles on both sides of his neck" as he took each breath. We did, the best we could but the boy, Jamie, died on the OR table about 30 minutes later.

" I helped the nurses get the little boy cleaned up and then went to see the parents. The assisting surgeon told Jamie's the parents, "We did all we could, but we lost him." The surgeon had disappeared.

"The parent were shocked, devastated and crying. The mother asked to see her dead son, kiss him good-by and hold him and cry. I spent time with the parents after that letting them ask me questions, some of which I had no answer for.

Later I learned that around 30 minutes after I saw the boy in his room, crying, just before going home about 4 am that morning, the little boy expelled a large amount of blood from his bottom. The surgeon was called ordered blood. He did not come in to check on the boy. Later the little boy expelled another large amount of blood from his bottom. The surgeon was called again and ordered more blood. The nurses said they begged him to come in and see the boy but he said to give the blood and he'd be fine.

I am sure I do not have to point out to you and any other Medical Professional or Health Care professional that the hematoma on the back side of the cecum had ruptured and there was a lot of bleeding into the large intestine which caused the two episodes of bleeding from the little boy's bottom. I also an sure you have already figured out that there was a rapidly evolving gram negative septicemia as well as hypo-volemia that caused the symptoms I saw when coming back to the hospital before the second surgery to save Jamie's life, but he was too far gone to save.

"There was a Mal-practice Law Suit and as part of Discovery related to the Law Suit I spent 3 hours in a Deposition with the Surgeon who did not tell the parents their son had died and who went and hid for 24 hours in a Condo at a Resort he owned some 30 miles away and lied in his progress notes, sitting on my left side.

"Prior to the Deposition, the Hospital's Attorney talked with me and told me that the Parent's Attorney knew Jamie's chart forward and backward. He was a seasoned Mal-Practice Attorney. I was told their would be a question that would be asked me toward the end of the Deposition. He could not tell me what the question would be but I would recognize it when it came. Then I had a choice, I could hit a home run and go home with a good future or I could be intimidated by the Surgeon sitting on my left during the Deposition and go home with a chance of a Law Suit for lying under Oath in my future.

"The Parent's Attorney went over the entire scene of both surgeries, my pre-op visit with the boy and parents before the first surgery, my visit after the first surgery when Jamie was sitting up crying and how Jamie looked, his coloration, ease or difficulty of breathing, etc. and how long I spent time with the parents after Jamie died. When the question the hospital Attorney mentioned came is was a simple straight forward series of 2 questions: "Did you do everything you knew to do during the surgery when Jamie died?" I answered, "I have gone over this surgery and Jamie's death multiple times looking for something else I could hove done to save Jamie's life and I did everything I knew to do." The next question was "Did everyone, in your opinion, do all they should have done to save Jamie's life that night?" I said, "We all did except one. The surgeon should have come in and checked Jamie when he got the first phone call from the nurses about Jamie passing blood through his bottom."

The Surgeon, sitting on my left gasped. Jamie's Parent's Attorney said, "Thank you, you are excused." As I walked to the door to leave, just as I reached for the door knob, Jamie's Parent's Attorney said, Just a minute, and then he asked Jamie's Parents, "Do you want to tell him or do you want me to tell him?" Jamie's parents said "You tell him." The next words I hear were "Mr.__

you are no longer on this lawsuit, you have been removed and there will not be any record of this against your name!"

"As I was hearing these words I was grabbed and hugged by Jamie's parents, who thanked me for caring enough to stay with them when they learned that Jamie had died. A couple of hours later the Hospital Attorney asked to speak to me in private. Here is what he said, "Do you remember the story of Diagonese from Greek mythology? The man who went around with a lantern looking for the face of an honest man? Today, I have looked into the face of an honest man, you. Don't ever forget that honesty is proof of your ethics. Don't ever be afraid to be honest, especially with a patient or family member. In a Mal-Practice Case the honest rarely see the inside of a courtroom because their honesty is appreciated. Even when they make a mistake, if they are honest with the patient and the patients family and say "I made a mistake" they are very seldom tried for that mistake because most people realize none of us are perfect and we all make mistakes." I've never forgotten those words.

"The Surgeon was convicted of Mal-Practice and lost Mal-Practice Insurance for a period of 3 years. His reputation in that community suffered tremendously and Jamie's parents won the largest Mal-Practice award that had been given by a jury up to that time in that State.

"That was 15 years before I graduated from law School and 16 years before doing work on the first Mal-Practice Case defending Physicians. I have seen many cases where, IF the Physician just said, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake" that Physician's stature in the eyes of that patient or patient's family would have risen to a new height of appreciation. That honesty would have prevented many Mal-Practice Lawsuits and much lost time away from family and their medical practice..

Dr. rjt, I admire your stance against the Covid jabs. Ethics involves more than just answering a few questions on a board Exam or a personal quality such as empathy and compassion, it also involves the personal ability to admit to a harmed patient or the patient's family that you are human and not a "god". Empathy and compassion can be faked by some people but when you add the trait of honesty to empathy and compassion that is the real definition of "Ethics."

As to your third point, sadly, like in Medicine, there are Practitioners of Law who lack the qualities of Ethics. I know this to be true also, I have seen and worked with some of them and they, also are not a "god." Ethics needs to be taught in Law Schools also.

Dr. rjt,

It is my hope for you that if you still want to practice medicine that you will be able to do so again in the future. What you have suffered by refusing to take an experimental jab that is now known to be a bio-weapon is a travesty of justice by the medical profession and the government of the jursisdicton you practiced in. Those who perpetrated this in justice on you will face retribution someday. If after all your study and even the trials of neuroanatomy you believe that 'we are wonderfully made' as the good book speaks of, there is also a text I would like to share with you. Romans 12:19 last part; "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord." (KJV)

Keep looking up,

Bittserv

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rjt's avatar

Island Health (formerly known as VIHA, but "rebranded" when everyone called it Vi HaHaHa)is in B.C., visible from Washington's Olympic Peninsula and San Juan Islands.

I am done- I put in forty years, and each decade became more bureaucratic, more computerised, and less fun. I was in the privileged position of not "needing" the income, and my wife has been opposed to vaccination for decades.

Thank you for your understanding.

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Bitterroot Services's avatar

Dr. rjt,

In my book, for what ever it is worth, you were a Physician who stood and still stands, head and shoulders above most.

May your retirement bring you the joy and peace a man of your stature deserves.

Bitterroot

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