"One major obstacle to selling Ozempic is its high cost ($1,000-$1,500 per month), making it unaffordable without insurance. The Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 prohibits Medicare from covering weight loss drugs, but the industry has been lobbying to overturn this. An "obesity rights" coalition, (funded by Ozempic’s manufacturer), has successfully advanced a law through committee to allow Medicare coverage, which could cost between $3.1 to $6 billion annually if passed."
When you spend a little time diving into Big Pharma's communications or investor calls or whatever, you quickly learn that government is Big Pharma's perfect customer. Huge guaranteed bulk orders basically in perpetuity, no matter if the drug actually does what they claim or not. (See: Covid vaccines/Paxlovid.)
I can envision the future articles now -- A "glitch" in Pfizer's AI program has erroneously approved every single application for all drugs for the last 2 years......
I'm afraid we all might be in for forced portion control.
I was sick in the head, thinking, what would you be thinking after you lost all of that weight and all of a sudden, there is starvation everywhere. Yeah, I'm sorta sick that way.
Portion control may be an unexpected benefit of government generated inflation. Note how the volume of ingredients in many foods and prepared meals is reduced through "shrinkflation".
You weren't paying attention for millions putting fork down doesn't work. You can't reduce your calories and lose weight and you can't maintain it and if you try to lose weight like that your body will rebel and your metabolism will slow even more and the weight will come back on plus more. Look up the consequences of "the biggest loser" tv show. They didn't advertise the reality that all of the people gained the weight back and many gained extra. Their metabolic tests come back as very different from a normal weight person and it isn't from lack of motivation or trying that the weight comes back.
And exercise doesn't cause weight loss either. It helps with overall health, but unless you are a freak most people later in life and certainly with extra weight have to keep it very moderate and be careful with exercise.
No you won't. Maybe it is the damage from bad subsidized food products and other environmental contaminants, but that isn't how it works. Unless you happen to be someone who went from normal weight to abnormal with the introduction of fast food, which you then stop eating, it just doesn't work that way. I've eaten modestly and healthily for decades and I have done two "medical weight loss" programs which were worse than doing nothing and I'm not an anomaly in our society. Sorry, but you are wrong and living in an ivory tower. Enjoy it, but that isn't the way it works.
In my 60 years in the drug business as a pharmacist I have seen all the hype that claimed that a pill or liquid or injection will resolve weight gain issues. Nonsense. Diet products with aspartame that many embrace creates weight gain and the aspartame should never have been marketed. A story in it self where good medicine is trumped by political connection and the drive to maximize the bottom line.
This is the latest iteration of the process. Reports are coming in that the injections cause inflammation of the retinal cells and has the potential to create blindness. Will not be confirmed until enough patients experience this side effect. Then the market will crash. Until we address the root causes which are based in excess consumption of sugar and liquid corn syrup and it's various forms, nothing will change. It is reported that 75% of all processed food products have corn based product in the ingredient formula. My view.
A little off topic, but I don’t trust Callie Means farther than I can throw him. I’d never heard of him until recently and I’ve been around this, “health and wellness” space since early 2000’s. He’s also been recorded as saying that if elected, RFKJ/ Trump should declare a “health state of emergency”. Callie Means would play a vital role to be sure. Doesn’t that sound like another government overreach state of emergency we’ve all been affected by, recently? The last thing I want is another government overlord declaring some state of emergency to take away more rights. It’s just another power grab. Just because they happen to be speaking my language about something I like (that needs to be addressed) doesn’t mean I want to give someone (or someone’s) more power.
I am glad you said this. I told my spouse immediately after watching Tuckers interview that these two individuals were blowing up the side bars and [ like yourself ] I have been around in this venue for almost 40 years. Never heard of them and all of a sudden they are seasoned experts that we just never knew about. I am sorry, this is off.
Seeds oil--is olive oil seed oil? That is all I have known and grew up with. Along with it our Mediterranean diet is what my family consumes. At 77, I am on no medication (doctors ask me if I am sure about that :)) and I weigh 98 lbs since I was a teenager.
Here is the answer from AI. I did not include the links provided, but if you want them, use the Brave search engine.
Is Olive Oil Seed Oil?
According to the search results, olive oil is extracted from the fruit of the olive tree (olives) and not from the seeds of the plant. This is explicitly stated in multiple sources:
“Olive oil (often sold as extra-virgin olive oil) is considered a vegetable oil, but not a seed oil, because it’s not derived from the seed of the olive” (Source 1)
“Olive oil comes from milling the olives, not from seeds” (Source 3)
“Olive oil, celebrated for its nutritional profile and rich history, is extracted from the fruit of the olive tree, not from seeds” (Source 4)
In contrast, seed oils are extracted from the seeds of various plants, such as canola oil. Olive oil’s origin from olives, rather than seeds, distinguishes it as a distinct category of oil.
Olive oil, coconut oil, butter, ghee and lard are all okay fat/oils. Avocado oil can be used, but isn't as good as the others as it is more processed, but it has a higher smoke point.
Reminds me of being sent/forced to a heart specialist by my employers' doc due to refusing to take cholesterol meds I reacted badly to.
It was high pressure sales all the way.
First the doc comes in, doing his best impression of a TV doc and being so very serious about how I needed to be taking drugs...Lots of drugs, or I may die tomorrow.
Sorry doc, that's a hard no and that's incorrect on lifespan.
Next up was the really pretty nurse who suggested, with overt sexual overtones, that she could get me this really expensive drug for cholesterol for a very special deal and it would make little ol' her so very happy if I would just take this drug.
Sorry honey, no deal.
I worked in the auto trade for years and this mess reminded me of nothing so much as watching high pressure sales clowns in a crooked car dealership do their evil persuasion tricks.
They finally gave up on pressuring me and proceeded with the treadmill etc. to test my heart condition.
I passed with flying colors...and didn't die the next day as threatened!
My ex father in law used to run the sleep study lab at the local teaching hospital.
He used to laugh about how the drug reps would do anything to get the docs to prescribe their meds.
Stuff like bringing in fancy high dollar meals to feed entire departments...as they sprayed samples of their drugs all over like they were candy on Halloween.
You didn't have to be a doc either. They didn't care who took the samples.
My ex father in law had quite the collection of useful prescription pharmaceuticals he got that way.
Definitely OK in his hands. He was not a doc, but he had done three tours as a combat medic in Vietnam.
When I was young, decades ago, hardly anyone was fat. We stayed slender because we worked off our food outdoors, playing games, running, etc. And the food we ate was pretty much all "natural." Hot Pockets and Lunchables hadn't been invented yet.
Unfortunately Americans have become fat, lazy and addicted to convenience. Being healthy isn’t rocket science. Avoid foods containing or cooked in seed oils. Avoid refined sugars, avoid grains and eliminate processed foods. Engage in some actual exercise, preferably with resistance like weights or bands. Make quality sleep a priority and make sure to get natural sunlight daily.
There is a lot of concern over the propaganda and phony information promoted by the pharmaceutical companies and their satraps in the mass media and the medical profession. This is certainly deserved but the most hilarious fact is that their greatest successes came about almost entirely by accident. Ozempic is just the latest example. One of the pioneer examples was Viagra. Initially marketed as an antihypertensive drug, it had only a modest effect on blood pressure. But a number of men given the drug started saying something like "Say Doc, guess what happened when I took that pill. I don't care about the effect on my BP but I would dearly love to have some refills added to my prescription." The word spread like wildfire and soon the pharmacies couldn't keep up with the demand. The beauty of it was that the company didn't even have to spend money on advertising. Word of mouth plus an occasional (wink, wink) ad was sufficient. The latest example, Ozempic and similar drugs were developed in order to treat a basically made-up disease labelled Type 2 Diabetes and now a more egregious fraud called "pre-diabetes". These were marketed as effective in reducing A-1-C levels---a laboratory surrogate for hyperglycemia. The response was pretty modest until they discovered that a side effect for some people was weight loss. Soon the ads would throw in a statement at the end such as "I also lost some weight". That was sufficient for the drug to take off and is now marketed primarily for weight loss. Like Viagra, the drug has soared in popularity because of a side effect that had nothing to do with the intended purpose. So the lesson is: while the drug companies are certainly diabolical and untrustworthy, their successes are most often due to dumb luck rather than intelligent planning.
26 yr old mother with 2 little boys was lifted in prayer at our prayer meeting last night. Her cousin was present and asked us all to pray for this 26 yr old young woman as she has suffered a “stomach stroke “ due to ozempic shots-she basically blew out her stomach and will now have a feeding tube , in her nose, permanently. There were 2 other women present who are also taking the shots.
The look on their faces was painful to view~and I have been telling them both about the dangers for months.
No matter what you tell people, some just won’t accept it because it’s from you.
Makes me SICK to watch people volunteer to hurt their bodies, unto possible death, to stroke their vanity via their stupidity.
I hope all them pushers are taking Ozempic. Ya know, sort of like the wise people who forced all to get that jab. Who's crying now.
All I have to say is stay away from anything pharma has produced....it's all a big profit game at the takers expense & any and all that has to do with the medical machine, will always cover for each other. So don't ever ask for their advise, ever. Unless you are just lazy enough that you don't want to research on your own. Then buyers remorse will set in. Thank you for doing half of the research for us all to get informed.
Your link re withdrawal of Alzheimer’s drug is another e.g. of medical gaslighting as they insisted it was not being discontinued for reasons related to safety or efficacy but that they were reprioritising their resources – typical PR/marketing-speak.
A friend who worked as an interpreter for a pharma executives meeting told me that they were positively gleeful when viewing charts of increased disease incidence!
"One major obstacle to selling Ozempic is its high cost ($1,000-$1,500 per month), making it unaffordable without insurance. The Medicare Modernization Act of 2003 prohibits Medicare from covering weight loss drugs, but the industry has been lobbying to overturn this. An "obesity rights" coalition, (funded by Ozempic’s manufacturer), has successfully advanced a law through committee to allow Medicare coverage, which could cost between $3.1 to $6 billion annually if passed."
When you spend a little time diving into Big Pharma's communications or investor calls or whatever, you quickly learn that government is Big Pharma's perfect customer. Huge guaranteed bulk orders basically in perpetuity, no matter if the drug actually does what they claim or not. (See: Covid vaccines/Paxlovid.)
Lilly is now pushing to sell the product directly to the consumer to by pass the safety checks via AI programs.
I can envision the future articles now -- A "glitch" in Pfizer's AI program has erroneously approved every single application for all drugs for the last 2 years......
I'm afraid that millions of people are going to find out the hard way that for losing weight, nothing beats fork put-downs.
Portion control is a lost art.
I'm afraid we all might be in for forced portion control.
I was sick in the head, thinking, what would you be thinking after you lost all of that weight and all of a sudden, there is starvation everywhere. Yeah, I'm sorta sick that way.
You are not alone.
Portion control may be an unexpected benefit of government generated inflation. Note how the volume of ingredients in many foods and prepared meals is reduced through "shrinkflation".
They called that "the Maduro diet" in Venezuela.
You weren't paying attention for millions putting fork down doesn't work. You can't reduce your calories and lose weight and you can't maintain it and if you try to lose weight like that your body will rebel and your metabolism will slow even more and the weight will come back on plus more. Look up the consequences of "the biggest loser" tv show. They didn't advertise the reality that all of the people gained the weight back and many gained extra. Their metabolic tests come back as very different from a normal weight person and it isn't from lack of motivation or trying that the weight comes back.
Sorry, with the very very rare genetic exception, this is simply not how it works. Consume fewer calories than you eat and you will lose weight.
And exercise doesn't cause weight loss either. It helps with overall health, but unless you are a freak most people later in life and certainly with extra weight have to keep it very moderate and be careful with exercise.
Weird how the people who eat right and exercise just happen to do it while people who are lazy and eat junk are fat. It's a mystery.
"and eat junk". You're getting there. Who makes the junk?
It's no secret the American diet is full of processed crap.
No you won't. Maybe it is the damage from bad subsidized food products and other environmental contaminants, but that isn't how it works. Unless you happen to be someone who went from normal weight to abnormal with the introduction of fast food, which you then stop eating, it just doesn't work that way. I've eaten modestly and healthily for decades and I have done two "medical weight loss" programs which were worse than doing nothing and I'm not an anomaly in our society. Sorry, but you are wrong and living in an ivory tower. Enjoy it, but that isn't the way it works.
Nothing beats fixing the food industry. That's the cause, that's the solution.
In my 60 years in the drug business as a pharmacist I have seen all the hype that claimed that a pill or liquid or injection will resolve weight gain issues. Nonsense. Diet products with aspartame that many embrace creates weight gain and the aspartame should never have been marketed. A story in it self where good medicine is trumped by political connection and the drive to maximize the bottom line.
This is the latest iteration of the process. Reports are coming in that the injections cause inflammation of the retinal cells and has the potential to create blindness. Will not be confirmed until enough patients experience this side effect. Then the market will crash. Until we address the root causes which are based in excess consumption of sugar and liquid corn syrup and it's various forms, nothing will change. It is reported that 75% of all processed food products have corn based product in the ingredient formula. My view.
It would help if people would read labels!
For a while, I loved how all the commercials for those products included "along with diet and exercise......"
Why, it's almost as if the important things are the diet and the exercise, not the pills!
A little off topic, but I don’t trust Callie Means farther than I can throw him. I’d never heard of him until recently and I’ve been around this, “health and wellness” space since early 2000’s. He’s also been recorded as saying that if elected, RFKJ/ Trump should declare a “health state of emergency”. Callie Means would play a vital role to be sure. Doesn’t that sound like another government overreach state of emergency we’ve all been affected by, recently? The last thing I want is another government overlord declaring some state of emergency to take away more rights. It’s just another power grab. Just because they happen to be speaking my language about something I like (that needs to be addressed) doesn’t mean I want to give someone (or someone’s) more power.
I am glad you said this. I told my spouse immediately after watching Tuckers interview that these two individuals were blowing up the side bars and [ like yourself ] I have been around in this venue for almost 40 years. Never heard of them and all of a sudden they are seasoned experts that we just never knew about. I am sorry, this is off.
Seeds oil--is olive oil seed oil? That is all I have known and grew up with. Along with it our Mediterranean diet is what my family consumes. At 77, I am on no medication (doctors ask me if I am sure about that :)) and I weigh 98 lbs since I was a teenager.
It depends. Cheaper manufacturers use oil from the pits, better ones don't.
Olive oil is a-okay. They are referring to unnatural oils, ie. Canola oil, sunflower oil, safflower oil, industrial seed oils.
Here is the answer from AI. I did not include the links provided, but if you want them, use the Brave search engine.
Is Olive Oil Seed Oil?
According to the search results, olive oil is extracted from the fruit of the olive tree (olives) and not from the seeds of the plant. This is explicitly stated in multiple sources:
“Olive oil (often sold as extra-virgin olive oil) is considered a vegetable oil, but not a seed oil, because it’s not derived from the seed of the olive” (Source 1)
“Olive oil comes from milling the olives, not from seeds” (Source 3)
“Olive oil, celebrated for its nutritional profile and rich history, is extracted from the fruit of the olive tree, not from seeds” (Source 4)
In contrast, seed oils are extracted from the seeds of various plants, such as canola oil. Olive oil’s origin from olives, rather than seeds, distinguishes it as a distinct category of oil.
Olive oil is not a seed oil, and is an excellent replacement in cooking and recipes
Make sure you don't skimp on olive oil and really know where and who makes it...just pure 100%.
Olive oil, coconut oil, butter, ghee and lard are all okay fat/oils. Avocado oil can be used, but isn't as good as the others as it is more processed, but it has a higher smoke point.
Reminds me of being sent/forced to a heart specialist by my employers' doc due to refusing to take cholesterol meds I reacted badly to.
It was high pressure sales all the way.
First the doc comes in, doing his best impression of a TV doc and being so very serious about how I needed to be taking drugs...Lots of drugs, or I may die tomorrow.
Sorry doc, that's a hard no and that's incorrect on lifespan.
Next up was the really pretty nurse who suggested, with overt sexual overtones, that she could get me this really expensive drug for cholesterol for a very special deal and it would make little ol' her so very happy if I would just take this drug.
Sorry honey, no deal.
I worked in the auto trade for years and this mess reminded me of nothing so much as watching high pressure sales clowns in a crooked car dealership do their evil persuasion tricks.
They finally gave up on pressuring me and proceeded with the treadmill etc. to test my heart condition.
I passed with flying colors...and didn't die the next day as threatened!
My ex father in law used to run the sleep study lab at the local teaching hospital.
He used to laugh about how the drug reps would do anything to get the docs to prescribe their meds.
Stuff like bringing in fancy high dollar meals to feed entire departments...as they sprayed samples of their drugs all over like they were candy on Halloween.
You didn't have to be a doc either. They didn't care who took the samples.
My ex father in law had quite the collection of useful prescription pharmaceuticals he got that way.
Definitely OK in his hands. He was not a doc, but he had done three tours as a combat medic in Vietnam.
When I was young, decades ago, hardly anyone was fat. We stayed slender because we worked off our food outdoors, playing games, running, etc. And the food we ate was pretty much all "natural." Hot Pockets and Lunchables hadn't been invented yet.
African Americans: Ozempic’s manufacturer paid the NAACP to lobby for the drug, framing any opposition as perpetuating systemic racism.
I am rarely at a loss for words, but I actually had to read this three times to let it sink in.
Unfortunately Americans have become fat, lazy and addicted to convenience. Being healthy isn’t rocket science. Avoid foods containing or cooked in seed oils. Avoid refined sugars, avoid grains and eliminate processed foods. Engage in some actual exercise, preferably with resistance like weights or bands. Make quality sleep a priority and make sure to get natural sunlight daily.
Yep, get outside and start a food garden. The best!
There is a lot of concern over the propaganda and phony information promoted by the pharmaceutical companies and their satraps in the mass media and the medical profession. This is certainly deserved but the most hilarious fact is that their greatest successes came about almost entirely by accident. Ozempic is just the latest example. One of the pioneer examples was Viagra. Initially marketed as an antihypertensive drug, it had only a modest effect on blood pressure. But a number of men given the drug started saying something like "Say Doc, guess what happened when I took that pill. I don't care about the effect on my BP but I would dearly love to have some refills added to my prescription." The word spread like wildfire and soon the pharmacies couldn't keep up with the demand. The beauty of it was that the company didn't even have to spend money on advertising. Word of mouth plus an occasional (wink, wink) ad was sufficient. The latest example, Ozempic and similar drugs were developed in order to treat a basically made-up disease labelled Type 2 Diabetes and now a more egregious fraud called "pre-diabetes". These were marketed as effective in reducing A-1-C levels---a laboratory surrogate for hyperglycemia. The response was pretty modest until they discovered that a side effect for some people was weight loss. Soon the ads would throw in a statement at the end such as "I also lost some weight". That was sufficient for the drug to take off and is now marketed primarily for weight loss. Like Viagra, the drug has soared in popularity because of a side effect that had nothing to do with the intended purpose. So the lesson is: while the drug companies are certainly diabolical and untrustworthy, their successes are most often due to dumb luck rather than intelligent planning.
Stomach Stroke:
26 yr old mother with 2 little boys was lifted in prayer at our prayer meeting last night. Her cousin was present and asked us all to pray for this 26 yr old young woman as she has suffered a “stomach stroke “ due to ozempic shots-she basically blew out her stomach and will now have a feeding tube , in her nose, permanently. There were 2 other women present who are also taking the shots.
The look on their faces was painful to view~and I have been telling them both about the dangers for months.
No matter what you tell people, some just won’t accept it because it’s from you.
Makes me SICK to watch people volunteer to hurt their bodies, unto possible death, to stroke their vanity via their stupidity.
Well she'll lose weight now. Sad.
I hope all them pushers are taking Ozempic. Ya know, sort of like the wise people who forced all to get that jab. Who's crying now.
All I have to say is stay away from anything pharma has produced....it's all a big profit game at the takers expense & any and all that has to do with the medical machine, will always cover for each other. So don't ever ask for their advise, ever. Unless you are just lazy enough that you don't want to research on your own. Then buyers remorse will set in. Thank you for doing half of the research for us all to get informed.
Hmmm….taking Gila Monster poison
Sounds safe ☠️ 🐍 🦎 🏴☠️ 🪦
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Your link re withdrawal of Alzheimer’s drug is another e.g. of medical gaslighting as they insisted it was not being discontinued for reasons related to safety or efficacy but that they were reprioritising their resources – typical PR/marketing-speak.
A friend who worked as an interpreter for a pharma executives meeting told me that they were positively gleeful when viewing charts of increased disease incidence!
I'm seeing oral glp-1 medications being offered now at much lower costs. Presuming the affects are the same, even more people will be harmed.