So what do you do when the Only avenue for relief you have found are SSRIs? It is not as simple as stopping the SSRI and exercising harder or whatever someone suggests. The Depression itself can be Extremely dangerous. I have started and stopped SSRIs for thirty years and have never found another option that was effective. And living in …
So what do you do when the Only avenue for relief you have found are SSRIs? It is not as simple as stopping the SSRI and exercising harder or whatever someone suggests. The Depression itself can be Extremely dangerous. I have started and stopped SSRIs for thirty years and have never found another option that was effective. And living in the Hell that is severe, clinical depression is Not an option. So, what do you do?
The relationship between chronic infection and depression is compelling. Suicide among those with chronic Lyme is much higher than the general population, for example. We are nutritionally deficient - depression being a major symptom. We are toxic which also causes mental issues. We are being bombarded with poison every minute. We are looking at blue screens for hours. It causes depression fatigue and metabolic dysregulation. It's amazing that we are not all laying in heaps in the streets. There is much that we could do just using common sense - like turn the lights out when you sleep. Seriously. Start with what you CAN do. I have been where you are. I had a Swedish counselor tell me that I would never go on anti depressants again if I committed to one hour of aerobic exercise a day for the rest of my life. I was 24 and dying of an eating disorder. I took the challenge. I am now 64 and although I have been tempted, I take that power walk before I pick up the phone. When I get home, I'm like," I'll wait and see how I feel tomorrow.
These drugs are sadly not the answer, but can worsen your depression, thinking & outlook. When I see commercials re antidepressants that list suicide as a side effect—how can that even be for an antidepressant or anti-anxiety?!
I’m so sorry that you are up & down with SSRIs. I think you need to find a good doctor, schooled also in holistic & see if you can wean off these drugs & what else you can do to make yourself more healthy. I also have a dear friend who has been using SSRIS for years & she isn’t the same person I used to know. And she also finds it tough to go w/o.
So if you find a solution, do share.
Maybe Midwestern doc can do a follow up article on resources to help people?
Lithium orotate is just very low-dose lithium. It has surprisingly low solubility. (Most lithium salts are either deliquescent, or totally insoluble.) Lithium increases mellowness and patience, while reducing grumpiness. However, titrating the correct dose (best approached from below) is important. Excessive urination and thirst are the first symptoms of overdose. Worse, as well as goiter, are possible.
You look at how it’s working for you. Benefits vs risks. If the alternative is losing a life changing treatment, or even a life saving one, if your depression is severe and the med is what keeps suicidal behavior at bay, the calculus favors the med or finding another treatment like intensive therapy and or a different med.
Don't listen to these people. It's all nonsense. If you want to find an alternative to long term SSRI use (and why wouldn't you? Being on these drugs is not ideal even though AMidwesternDoctor and the commenters ideas about them are mostly not true) then the best thing for you to do is to find a good naturopath who is confident in working with mental health cases (assuming that you are not fortunate enough to have a natural therapy orientated psychiatrist in your area) and work with said naturopath towards that goal. They will be able to prescribe you a mixture of herbs and supplements which should realistically be able to at the very least either reduce your dose of SSRI OR improve your level of wellness on the SSRI.
Yes...in my case i know there is the need for very low dose meds as i wrote above. I also know it's likely something besides my strategies of exercising, meditation, spiritual, mindfulness based cognitive therapy, energy psychology...that i haven't found. ..maybe saffron ! Also, i have yet to get my trampoline (i have an intuitive idea this will help).
So what do you do when the Only avenue for relief you have found are SSRIs? It is not as simple as stopping the SSRI and exercising harder or whatever someone suggests. The Depression itself can be Extremely dangerous. I have started and stopped SSRIs for thirty years and have never found another option that was effective. And living in the Hell that is severe, clinical depression is Not an option. So, what do you do?
The relationship between chronic infection and depression is compelling. Suicide among those with chronic Lyme is much higher than the general population, for example. We are nutritionally deficient - depression being a major symptom. We are toxic which also causes mental issues. We are being bombarded with poison every minute. We are looking at blue screens for hours. It causes depression fatigue and metabolic dysregulation. It's amazing that we are not all laying in heaps in the streets. There is much that we could do just using common sense - like turn the lights out when you sleep. Seriously. Start with what you CAN do. I have been where you are. I had a Swedish counselor tell me that I would never go on anti depressants again if I committed to one hour of aerobic exercise a day for the rest of my life. I was 24 and dying of an eating disorder. I took the challenge. I am now 64 and although I have been tempted, I take that power walk before I pick up the phone. When I get home, I'm like," I'll wait and see how I feel tomorrow.
These drugs are sadly not the answer, but can worsen your depression, thinking & outlook. When I see commercials re antidepressants that list suicide as a side effect—how can that even be for an antidepressant or anti-anxiety?!
I’m so sorry that you are up & down with SSRIs. I think you need to find a good doctor, schooled also in holistic & see if you can wean off these drugs & what else you can do to make yourself more healthy. I also have a dear friend who has been using SSRIS for years & she isn’t the same person I used to know. And she also finds it tough to go w/o.
So if you find a solution, do share.
Maybe Midwestern doc can do a follow up article on resources to help people?
You might listen to Andrew Saul about niacin therapy. You can learn more about it at his website www.doctoryourself.com
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7K2tqxKf2EE
Thanks. I will.
Have you investigated an over the counter supplement called "lithium orotate"?
Lithium orotate is just very low-dose lithium. It has surprisingly low solubility. (Most lithium salts are either deliquescent, or totally insoluble.) Lithium increases mellowness and patience, while reducing grumpiness. However, titrating the correct dose (best approached from below) is important. Excessive urination and thirst are the first symptoms of overdose. Worse, as well as goiter, are possible.
You look at how it’s working for you. Benefits vs risks. If the alternative is losing a life changing treatment, or even a life saving one, if your depression is severe and the med is what keeps suicidal behavior at bay, the calculus favors the med or finding another treatment like intensive therapy and or a different med.
I'm in the same boat. I just wanted to say you're definitely not alone.
Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal: A Guide for Prescribers, Therapists, Patients and their Families
The book gets good reviews.
Don't listen to these people. It's all nonsense. If you want to find an alternative to long term SSRI use (and why wouldn't you? Being on these drugs is not ideal even though AMidwesternDoctor and the commenters ideas about them are mostly not true) then the best thing for you to do is to find a good naturopath who is confident in working with mental health cases (assuming that you are not fortunate enough to have a natural therapy orientated psychiatrist in your area) and work with said naturopath towards that goal. They will be able to prescribe you a mixture of herbs and supplements which should realistically be able to at the very least either reduce your dose of SSRI OR improve your level of wellness on the SSRI.
Yes...in my case i know there is the need for very low dose meds as i wrote above. I also know it's likely something besides my strategies of exercising, meditation, spiritual, mindfulness based cognitive therapy, energy psychology...that i haven't found. ..maybe saffron ! Also, i have yet to get my trampoline (i have an intuitive idea this will help).
Of course you stay on the meds which keep you well! This essay is propaganda and is wrong . You and your doctor worked out what you need!!
Propaganda for what? What is the benefit of writing this?