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Hawaii has the most corrupt government in the union, save perhaps NY. Talk about pay to play. The disaster in Lahaina could be predicted, especially when you add in the equity angle. You’ve got the most corrupt and incompetent people running the show, what do you expect to happen?

Secondly, on housing. This happens elsewhere too but those high rise condos are not for the most part being purchased by Americans, they are being purchased by foreigners.

Hawaii is being raped.

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I have been here 23 years, and you could not be more right. It has never been different.

Libtard heaven. Massive land grab via fire. The Art of War is a brilliant synopsis on who fire has ALWAYS been used to vanquish and destroy. It is a playbook followed here precisely.

There is no question high winds and a tinder box environment existed. There is also no question that it does nothing to explain the direct hits. A thousand details...

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the spell "check" make people look stupid correction is definitely happening in live time on all Subs, have to edit and re-edit all posts, its maddening

no way to disable it

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in the post above the word how was edited to say who, making he sentence incomprehensible

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The tinder box - I have heard accusations that it, too, was prepared.

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Regarding forest fires, an argument often put forth by conservatives is that the blue states are not practicing effective forest management because they don’t want to disturb nature—making fires more likely. I believe there’s some truth in this. Could it have been a factor in Lahaina?

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I know in California, a major issue is that the firefighting industry lobbies against forestry control methods being done (and gets the environmentalists to buy in) so they can keep on being paid a lot to fight fires. It's similar to how the prison guard unions lobied for stricter legal penalties that put more people in prison.

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exactly the point, dividing along party lines is an old strategy

it works wonders, especially with media enablers

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That is beyond the pale, just evil re the firefighting lobbying

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although forest management has been relinquished and Lahaina and Upcountry was a tinderbox, that does nothing to explain causation

There is irrefutable evidence, and severe consequences for posting

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You are 100% correct!

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