The "beauty" of all this covid nonsense is that many are questioning EVERYTHING. I never identified as anti-vax before 2020. Now I'm full blown anti-allopathic medicine!
The "beauty" of all this covid nonsense is that many are questioning EVERYTHING. I never identified as anti-vax before 2020. Now I'm full blown anti-allopathic medicine!
Instead of antivaxxer - which has all manner of political overtones. Why don't we just stick to science. Once we show and tell folks that a vaccine has no real way of working, that memory cells were a flawed assumption from yesteryear - this would go a long way to stopping the making of these items.
The Corporate Media will not allow it! Pro-lifers have been called "anti-abortion" by them while calling the opposite, pro-abortion or reproductive rights (what about the human baby's rights?) instead of anti-life or anti-birth.
It does remind me of Anti-Slavery vs States Rights - another time where human beings were depersonalized to being someone else's "rights."
I hear you, but still, all that stuff is less than "science". If we stuck to molecules, to antibodies, to memory cells (which don't exist), to why any modified form of a virus or bacteria can't, won't, generate the proper and needed immune response - this then would have to addressed, challenged. When the forum is about vaccine efficacy those who make vaccines will be better exposed once we go deep into details about how vaccines working is an impossibility of physics, chemistry and biology. Actual science can actually show how and why memory cells are not a real thing. So again, if we focus just on the science, molecular science, we can kill so so many birds with one stone - and save so much time, money, energy and efforts yelling about what happened to me or my loved ones once they were vaccinated. All of those cases, arguments, fall under here say - while actual proof that vaccines don't work, can more readily be shown in a lab and elsewhere. If a vaccine actually worked, which history has never proven, on a molecular level, then at least Risk/Reward could be on the table for people to consider. But if there is no reward because a vaccine can't actually work (no memory cells), then it's all risk.
To say a vaccine is "safe and effective" is an inherent contradiction in concepts. Every governmental or private medical science institution will say something to this effect: "All vaccines introduce into the body a harmless piece of a particular bacteria or virus, triggering an immune response." Note the word "harmless".
The problem with the idea, fact or reality, of "harmless" is that in order for an immune response to be solicited, triggered, there needs to be some harm. There needs to be an impact, an actual threat, or a takeover of a cell and turning it rogue, in order to get and have an immune response. "Infection" is defined as the invasion of tissues by pathogens, their multiplication, and the reaction of host tissues to the infectious agent and the toxins they produce. An infectious disease, also known as a transmissible disease or communicable disease, is an illness resulting from an infection.
A Mammalian host (humans in particular) reacts to infections with an innate (primary or general) response, often involving inflammation, followed by an adaptive (secondary or specialized) response.
The adaptive immune system takes over if the innate immune system is not able to destroy the germs. It specifically targets the type of germ (pathogen, antigen, virus, bacteria etc.) that is causing the infection. Combined, these levels of (phases of) immune responses fight the pathogen/antigen and hope to defeat it.
So, the person who just got vaccinated needs to have some type, or some level of covid infection (in the case of covid), they need to be experiencing at least some if not all of the manifestations (symptoms) of what the real virus can do, of what happens to someone actually infected and sick with the real virus.
To say there will be some redness and swolleness in the part of the arm or buttocks where the needle went in, is not the body reacting to the virus or deadly bacteria, this speaks ONLY to the needle. It also doesn't speak to the ingredients unless the ingredients also are perceived by the body as toxic and deadly (the makers of the current vaccines tell us that the ingredients are not toxic and deadly - whether they are or not is another discussion).
I can stick a sewing needle into my arm and redness and swelling will ensue due to natural innate, general immune reactions. But the body needs to have covid [virus] actually get into a cell, have sex with said cell (swap DNA/RNA), and then we can begin to claim for real immune responses both innate and adaptive - and thus yield genuine antibodies and hopefully subsequent B and T cells.
If a vaccine is "safe", then it can only, at best, trigger an innate immune response, not the critical Adaptive response (with those "memory cells"). Of the many ingredients in a vaccine that could pose a danger (potassium Chloride, Graphene oxide to name a few), 2 of them, mRNA and spike proteins (or pieces of the spike), together and or separately, are not toxic, neither of them are unto themselves or combined, pathogenic. I could drink an 8 oz glass of pure unadulterated mRNA molecules mixed in with pure non modified spike proteins - and nothing will happen, they will get destroyed not by immune responses but by regular digestive processes and end up as waste in my pee and or poop.
The entire premise for which vaccines are founded is to slowly or quickly build up an immune response to a particular threat and when given the vaccine, the body must respond to this vaccine, it's ingredients, in some type manner as it would respond to a natural infection, or there are zero chances of creating an immune response, innate and or adaptive. So, with any and all vaccines good luck trying to generate the proper and needed immune response, one with memory cells to boot, if the vaccine does not have the live virus in it.
Attenuated won't work, dead/destroyed virus won't work, weakened or inactivated version of the virus can't work (since it uses an inactivated form of a virus, it cannot infect your cells and make you sick), a spike protein, or protein subunit won't work, mRNA also will not be a threat allowing for the making of covid antibodies and memory cells. Viral vector vaccines can't work because here too it is a changed, "harmless" virus.
To have any chance for a vaccine to work against a virus, bacteria, etc. the vaccine must contain the real deal virus or bacteria etc, and those things cannot be in any way shape or form modified to be made harmless - because again, we need harm to create a genuine immune response - and not just some swelling and soreness in the region where the needle went into the body. A vaccine cannot be harmless if it intends to be effective. A conundrum modern science has yet to acknowledge and address.
Sorry, my friend, but it's not censorship when you have your own space plus all the other stacks. And occasional long great posts like this one are welcome on SK. It's just that too much of a good thing can spoil the broth - which is why it was only a one day suspension. I hope you repost it there but just once or twice.
I made my substack because I wanted to make some super-long comments. Maybe only a few listen but at least I said what I wanted to say.
You are not my friend, or anything to me - due to you deciding to block me, for one second, one hour or one day or a year. What you did was completely censoring - and without a heads up, without a first complaint to me etc. You were, are, a whining hack who wants or needs to be the only voice then i suggest you stay off social media, leave the internet. But DON'T EVER SILENCE SOMEONE'S VOICE!
But we can't all work together if we are censoring each other. Working together should allow for a back and forth prior to that extreme. I am not mad, this is not my first rodeo.
That's a good question. The vaccine has a good number of toxic components in it. The body doesn't like toxins so of course will set up an immune response (beyond swelling of the arm). However, the immune response will not be, in this case, for atmospheric covid but instead for the things in the vaccine, none of which are covid. Also, just antibodies won't do the trick. There needs to be a known amount that will trigger the adaptive immune response, this generates the killer B and T cells. A basic innate immune response will only summon up some basic antibodies - and this will not create a defense against covid going forward. I will post the entire article later today.
There are two phases of immune response, the first response is the innate, which most times can handle things, cuts, sores etc. With bacterial and viral, ones that impact cells and turn them rogue, the innate can't defeat these antigens so easily and many times calls on the killer Ts and Bs - the adaptive immune response (the secondary, not primary response. As for the marker, if you are referring to "memory" cells, they don't really exist, that was a bit of poor science understandings from yesteryear aka assumptions.
I'm beginning to believe vaccines cause autism. However, saying that a vaccine being 'safe and effective' is an "inherent contradiction in concepts" is not true. For it to be true then anything 'safe' would be by definition not effective and anything 'effective' would not be safe. You can say vaccines are not safe and/or not effective, but not that the two concepts are in contradiction with each other.
To believe vaccines cause autism, won't carry the day - we have to prove that - on a molecular level and a detailed one at that. It is far easier to prove, show, vaccines don't work, that it is an impossibility of physics, chemistry and biology for a vaccine to work. The entire idea of memory cells is not just flawed but out right incorrect.
That's right, any vaccine that is safe is not effective. The point of the vaccine is to create antibodies and an adaptive response which creates B and T cells, and then remembers for the next time the antigen comes at you (in you). But in order for the body to react in such a manner initially, there has to be harm, there has to be danger, the body needs to perceive something as a threat. If the CDC/FDA et al claim the vaccine is safe, that it does no harm, then it is not thus, effective.
I have a motion sensor alarm in my house, for protection, if it detects someone coming in un announced, it reacts. If i had a facial recognition system set up, and the person was not recognized and deemed a strange entity, an antigen, the alarm would go off.
In a perfect world, just sticking to science would win out in the near-term. In the real world, one must understand who creates the false narrative and why in order to defeat it. For example, science facts don't really matter to the global warming - oops, climate change people. The why is: because it is a scam to move wealth to where global elite (like WEF) want it. Here is the latest example of how they work the narrative: https://discernreport.com/climate-maps-manipulated-to-deceive-people-and-keep-the-global-warming-scam-going/
Additionally, one must challenge the people who have accepted a false narrative and unfortunately many people are too brainwashed, or ideological, or lack critical thinking skills, so doing so with science AND real life stories of "what happened to me or my loved ones" is more effective than just sticking to the science.
The most important thing is to get those who were deceived to realise that the next time government mandates a medical intervention, they might be among the 'unlucky, very rare' who are killed or crippled by it.
Fear got them them into it, and only fear will get them out of the spell cast over them by a very sophisticated propaganda machine.
Are you talking to me, or to Steve Kirch? Because he and i see it differently from you. For obvious reasons, posting once is never sufficient - like duh.
Can you provide a link to learn more about "If we stuck to molecules, to antibodies, to memory cells (which don't exist), to why any modified form of a virus or bacteria can't, won't, generate the proper and needed immune response - this then would have to addressed, challenged"?
By link, do you mean my article which goes into greater detail?
But yes, one would think, would hope it would be addressed - but that is unlikely to happen, since i am no one. The science of vaccines and the immune system is fraught with errors, contradictions and inconsistencies but again, it's me, a mouse roaring into the abyss...
Not anti-vaxxer just pro-science, pro-safety, pro-effectiveness, or anti-haccines (they hack your cells' DNA!):
Dr. Theresa Deisher proved in a Senate 2013 hearing, that antiviral vaccines made from cell-lines from aborted babies had 2000% excess human DNA than the 10 ng FDA limit: the chagepoint in the autism growth from linear to exponential matched exactly at the different introduction times in 14 different countries! (adjusting for late diagnosis).
This was corroborated by an EPA changepoint study, a NYC pediatrician and others. The dataset is opened for anybody to try!
Autism is growing due to environmental factors as proven by EPA. Yet, EPA concurred with one of Deisher's changepoints in the trend that went from slow linear to exponential.
What caused 14 different changepoints at 14 different moments in 14 different countries? The introduction of the new anti-viral vaccines which had excess DNA (2000% more than the 10 ng FDA limit).
Also, many parents are having great success in curing certain types of autism with alternative treatments, under medical advise. Join the Telegram groups of vax injured.
WhatтАЩs your best way to wake-up those who donтАЩt want to open their eyes?
Please share your most effective wake-up strategies.
The more the awakened, the sooner this nightmare will be over!
(caveat: pot destroys your brainтАж Tom Petty, rest in peace)
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the owner, with his 2 grown up siblings, failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)тАж by the way, he took an insurance policy against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them. The inside information about the future 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!:
Why is 9/11 called a Pearl Harbor event? Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.) and MUCH MORE:
Please read and watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050тАж written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: тАЬMaintain humanity under 500,000,000 тАж тАЭ
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA тАЬcontaminationтАЭ by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-HodgkinтАЩs lymphomas)
- ItтАЩs the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, donтАЩt believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. ItтАЩs not self-promotion: I couldnтАЩt find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
If you are a mason or know a mason, ask him to ask his 33┬░ master to put in writing and sign it, who is "the great architect" and that he is not Lucifer. If he refuses, then heтАЩll know who he is really serving, Satan: tell him to get out of masonry NOW. Sooner or later heтАЩll be required to trample on a cross to get to a higher degree.
President John Quincy Adams: тАЬMasonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.тАЭ
Confessions of a former mason (Serge Abad-Gallardo):
The best way to have a real dialogue about vaccines being weaponized to handicap, infertilize and murder the тАЬover-populationтАЭ is to start with vaccine contamination: nobody could be in favor of contaminated pharmaceuticals.
1. Carcinogen SV40 in Oral Polio Vaccine: they knew it since the 60s but kept distributing it even until 2016 !!!
2. hCG in vaccines to infertilize women detected since the 90s: still going on
3. Thimerosal, aluminum, Mono-sodium Glutamate (MSG) and other NEUROTOXINS
4. Heavy metals
5. Human DNA 2000% in excess of FDA 10 ng limit (main driver towards autism, leukemia and non-Hodgkin cancer)
6. Graphene oxide in Flu and COVID shots but now with anything injectable (even dentist anesthesia, hospital IV, etc.).
7. SV40 genomic sequences and double-stranded DNA in mRNA COVID shots
8. Bluetooth nano-routers injected with COVID vaccines and inserted with swabs (which explains why they rejected the cheaper non-invasive saliva test).
Proof of criminal intent:
Points 7 and 8
Censoring and blocking 30+ COVID cures
Labeling the most lethal batches with a lethal code (howbad.info)
Blocking the real knowledge of effectiveness v. "adverse event" rate
That proves:
A. There's zero Government control
B. There's zero Manufacturer liability
C. There's zero Media coverage
D. All that, during decades and still going on, not only with vaccines but also with medicines, food&beverage additives, etc. Everything, even institutions have been weaponized!
E. There's zero political action to stop that (except RFK2 in the USA)
A school buddy told me "I know you make sense but if I recognize it's true, I won't be able to enjoy life anymore".
I get your point, but we should all care that governments are conspiring with social media to censor free speech or expel any person they do not like. I'm certainly glad Elon Musk did, using his wealth to remove most of the vermin from one of the largest social media platforms.
Yes, of course, however, doesn't he still censor over there? I'm not on there just what I hear. I'm only on YT who is bad enough. Left FB years ago for that very reason. Boycotting usually helps.
Does that make me "vermin"? My account is still blocked, despite appeal, because I pointed out onchocerciasis (river blindness), ivermectin treats, is a human affliction. AI Elon Muskox apparently considers that "advocating suicide".
Hey, I wanted to let you know I got your email and asked Substack about it. I did all I could on my end, so I wish you the best of luck figuring this out.
The Vermin I am referring to are the pre-Musk hired employees, some ironically called "fact checkers" who censored and banned users (apparently like you) for any opinion other than their progressive opinions. They colluded with the totalitarians like Fauci and I believe that they should be held accountable for their role in suppressing information that would have saved hundreds of thousands of people.
Well....vax safety advocates have been doing that for years. Sadly it falls on deaf ears. Covid at least woke up many of the Libertarian and Republican legislators. When we were fighting a mandatory childhood vaccination bill in Oregon in 2019, the Dem legislators just closed their ears and adopted blank stares when given the scientific data. They just continued to repeat the mantra that they were told by their corporate sponsors and their party superiors...."safe & effective" "vaccines work" "injuries are 1 in a million". One day after a particularly gruesome meeting with one of the state senators, I realized that she knew what I was telling her was correct, but somebody had her by the balls and she had to continue to pretend. Willful ignorance. BUT at least things are slowly changing on all sides but the progressive pharma subsidiary side.
If you don't adopt an approach like Denis Rancourt, you will operate within the nested modelling of thescienceтДв.
Many who recognise the fallacy and harm in a false medical framework still war within the framework so as to reinforce and boost the thing they think to be opposing. The lie of a false claim is in conflict with truth and that is where I feel to give witness - rather than make war on the lie from a counter claim that can be falsely engaged with as a way to smear, deny and discount as a boosting of the lie in its own terms.
The concept of immunology is flawed - the nature of anaphylaxis is ignored.
Vaccines do 'work' as weapons of stealth, the immunity in legal terms for the agenda has always been a driving ambition for lawlessness to plunder and abuse with impunity.
So I don't invest in 'anti' identities that then assume moral right to dictate 'correct' thinking.
The way we communicate needs to learn to be from the place we would find a shared worth - even when our respective thought and choices can be painfully conflicted.
There is a sense in which the energetics of the body hold memory. Have you no traumatic events in your life? But to that I add if your 'immunity' is really a masking out that then masks over the denial - are you not still 'loaded' with 'stuff' that shapes your life - unwitting - that may in some sense be retriggered or re-opened as unfinished business?
Does Gilbert Ling or Harold Hillman inform your concept of a cell?
Vested science is its own kind of bank issued currency.
Hi Binra - I am not sure of your statements, your points. I think there are 2 or 3 separate ones here. Could you possibly say them in one or 2 sentences so I can better grasp your key points. Thanks.
You are an asshole and your science sucks, it's no match for what I bring to the table. If it gets you angry you should go to instagram or somewhere where the debates are less spirited.
Tossing out everything is a possibly mistake since there are studies that show intertwining both allopathic with Natural/Chinese type medicine is a better way to health. Being well informed is also critical to making medical decisions. Lastly always get at least two opinions.
I understand why you feel this way and as a retired RN I too say, no more vaccines for me. The trust that safety studies are being done is now shown to be a PR lie. Breaks my heart to know this as IтАЩve been involved with many people who would have died except for allopathic medical advances, not necessarily because of vaccines.
Immunization goes way back in our country to 1790тАЩs when small pox was rampant. They used actual fluid from the pustules to vaccinate the people. Some died from the disease due to this method. Then it was noticed that milk maids did not get or transmit Small Pox. Then immunizing used Cow Pox as the vaccine.
What pharma is doing with this MRNA crap I terrible and is not a real vaccine it is genetic plain and simple. Where did this come from? From what I can tell some scientists who believe humans need to evolve to a greater god like form. ItтАЩs part of WEF platform which include eradicating a large swath of world population seen as expendable and unfit. I might be wrong but thatтАЩs right from the pit of hell supported by many world country leaders which includes Biden and King Charles.
A lot of people are searching for accurate information now INDEED and some resources such as this seem to be missing protocols for WHAT THEY are describing be careful and be well
So, if hitler was found to be alive all this time, living in Argentina - and he surfaced with a sure shot cure for 90 different cancers (he took the best science minds with him to exile) - we wouldn't listen to what he had to say - because of who he is?
Or, would we take his findings, hang him by his balls to die, and then go about applying his findings to modern medicine?
The "beauty" of all this covid nonsense is that many are questioning EVERYTHING. I never identified as anti-vax before 2020. Now I'm full blown anti-allopathic medicine!
And I'm not alone...
Instead of antivaxxer - which has all manner of political overtones. Why don't we just stick to science. Once we show and tell folks that a vaccine has no real way of working, that memory cells were a flawed assumption from yesteryear - this would go a long way to stopping the making of these items.
The Corporate Media will not allow it! Pro-lifers have been called "anti-abortion" by them while calling the opposite, pro-abortion or reproductive rights (what about the human baby's rights?) instead of anti-life or anti-birth.
It does remind me of Anti-Slavery vs States Rights - another time where human beings were depersonalized to being someone else's "rights."
I hear you, but still, all that stuff is less than "science". If we stuck to molecules, to antibodies, to memory cells (which don't exist), to why any modified form of a virus or bacteria can't, won't, generate the proper and needed immune response - this then would have to addressed, challenged. When the forum is about vaccine efficacy those who make vaccines will be better exposed once we go deep into details about how vaccines working is an impossibility of physics, chemistry and biology. Actual science can actually show how and why memory cells are not a real thing. So again, if we focus just on the science, molecular science, we can kill so so many birds with one stone - and save so much time, money, energy and efforts yelling about what happened to me or my loved ones once they were vaccinated. All of those cases, arguments, fall under here say - while actual proof that vaccines don't work, can more readily be shown in a lab and elsewhere. If a vaccine actually worked, which history has never proven, on a molecular level, then at least Risk/Reward could be on the table for people to consider. But if there is no reward because a vaccine can't actually work (no memory cells), then it's all risk.
To say a vaccine is "safe and effective" is an inherent contradiction in concepts. Every governmental or private medical science institution will say something to this effect: "All vaccines introduce into the body a harmless piece of a particular bacteria or virus, triggering an immune response." Note the word "harmless".
The problem with the idea, fact or reality, of "harmless" is that in order for an immune response to be solicited, triggered, there needs to be some harm. There needs to be an impact, an actual threat, or a takeover of a cell and turning it rogue, in order to get and have an immune response. "Infection" is defined as the invasion of tissues by pathogens, their multiplication, and the reaction of host tissues to the infectious agent and the toxins they produce. An infectious disease, also known as a transmissible disease or communicable disease, is an illness resulting from an infection.
A Mammalian host (humans in particular) reacts to infections with an innate (primary or general) response, often involving inflammation, followed by an adaptive (secondary or specialized) response.
The adaptive immune system takes over if the innate immune system is not able to destroy the germs. It specifically targets the type of germ (pathogen, antigen, virus, bacteria etc.) that is causing the infection. Combined, these levels of (phases of) immune responses fight the pathogen/antigen and hope to defeat it.
So, the person who just got vaccinated needs to have some type, or some level of covid infection (in the case of covid), they need to be experiencing at least some if not all of the manifestations (symptoms) of what the real virus can do, of what happens to someone actually infected and sick with the real virus.
To say there will be some redness and swolleness in the part of the arm or buttocks where the needle went in, is not the body reacting to the virus or deadly bacteria, this speaks ONLY to the needle. It also doesn't speak to the ingredients unless the ingredients also are perceived by the body as toxic and deadly (the makers of the current vaccines tell us that the ingredients are not toxic and deadly - whether they are or not is another discussion).
I can stick a sewing needle into my arm and redness and swelling will ensue due to natural innate, general immune reactions. But the body needs to have covid [virus] actually get into a cell, have sex with said cell (swap DNA/RNA), and then we can begin to claim for real immune responses both innate and adaptive - and thus yield genuine antibodies and hopefully subsequent B and T cells.
If a vaccine is "safe", then it can only, at best, trigger an innate immune response, not the critical Adaptive response (with those "memory cells"). Of the many ingredients in a vaccine that could pose a danger (potassium Chloride, Graphene oxide to name a few), 2 of them, mRNA and spike proteins (or pieces of the spike), together and or separately, are not toxic, neither of them are unto themselves or combined, pathogenic. I could drink an 8 oz glass of pure unadulterated mRNA molecules mixed in with pure non modified spike proteins - and nothing will happen, they will get destroyed not by immune responses but by regular digestive processes and end up as waste in my pee and or poop.
The entire premise for which vaccines are founded is to slowly or quickly build up an immune response to a particular threat and when given the vaccine, the body must respond to this vaccine, it's ingredients, in some type manner as it would respond to a natural infection, or there are zero chances of creating an immune response, innate and or adaptive. So, with any and all vaccines good luck trying to generate the proper and needed immune response, one with memory cells to boot, if the vaccine does not have the live virus in it.
Attenuated won't work, dead/destroyed virus won't work, weakened or inactivated version of the virus can't work (since it uses an inactivated form of a virus, it cannot infect your cells and make you sick), a spike protein, or protein subunit won't work, mRNA also will not be a threat allowing for the making of covid antibodies and memory cells. Viral vector vaccines can't work because here too it is a changed, "harmless" virus.
To have any chance for a vaccine to work against a virus, bacteria, etc. the vaccine must contain the real deal virus or bacteria etc, and those things cannot be in any way shape or form modified to be made harmless - because again, we need harm to create a genuine immune response - and not just some swelling and soreness in the region where the needle went into the body. A vaccine cannot be harmless if it intends to be effective. A conundrum modern science has yet to acknowledge and address.
You should put this as your own substack article.
It will be, but i will still make my comments on any post that speaks to vaccines - even if you again wish to censor me like the last time wayne.
Sorry, my friend, but it's not censorship when you have your own space plus all the other stacks. And occasional long great posts like this one are welcome on SK. It's just that too much of a good thing can spoil the broth - which is why it was only a one day suspension. I hope you repost it there but just once or twice.
I made my substack because I wanted to make some super-long comments. Maybe only a few listen but at least I said what I wanted to say.
You are not my friend, or anything to me - due to you deciding to block me, for one second, one hour or one day or a year. What you did was completely censoring - and without a heads up, without a first complaint to me etc. You were, are, a whining hack who wants or needs to be the only voice then i suggest you stay off social media, leave the internet. But DON'T EVER SILENCE SOMEONE'S VOICE!
Well, thanks for your opinion but I'll still disagree and hope you don't stay mad. We can all work together for medical freedom. ЁЯША
But we can't all work together if we are censoring each other. Working together should allow for a back and forth prior to that extreme. I am not mad, this is not my first rodeo.
The article is ready on my free page ;https://rev10.substack.com/p/vaccines-do-they-work-or-are-they
how do you respond to their claim that the vax is effective by showing antibody titers in the injected
The article is ready on my free page ;https://rev10.substack.com/p/vaccines-do-they-work-or-are-they
That's a good question. The vaccine has a good number of toxic components in it. The body doesn't like toxins so of course will set up an immune response (beyond swelling of the arm). However, the immune response will not be, in this case, for atmospheric covid but instead for the things in the vaccine, none of which are covid. Also, just antibodies won't do the trick. There needs to be a known amount that will trigger the adaptive immune response, this generates the killer B and T cells. A basic innate immune response will only summon up some basic antibodies - and this will not create a defense against covid going forward. I will post the entire article later today.
Can you elaborate on antibody dependent enhancement.
And yes, a cellular response is what happens once the innate response fails to do the job.
To say "It" what are you referring to? What is the it that makes you more susceptible? How does this work, explain the pathways.
There are two phases of immune response, the first response is the innate, which most times can handle things, cuts, sores etc. With bacterial and viral, ones that impact cells and turn them rogue, the innate can't defeat these antigens so easily and many times calls on the killer Ts and Bs - the adaptive immune response (the secondary, not primary response. As for the marker, if you are referring to "memory" cells, they don't really exist, that was a bit of poor science understandings from yesteryear aka assumptions.
I'm beginning to believe vaccines cause autism. However, saying that a vaccine being 'safe and effective' is an "inherent contradiction in concepts" is not true. For it to be true then anything 'safe' would be by definition not effective and anything 'effective' would not be safe. You can say vaccines are not safe and/or not effective, but not that the two concepts are in contradiction with each other.
To believe vaccines cause autism, won't carry the day - we have to prove that - on a molecular level and a detailed one at that. It is far easier to prove, show, vaccines don't work, that it is an impossibility of physics, chemistry and biology for a vaccine to work. The entire idea of memory cells is not just flawed but out right incorrect.
some smart docs claim that no one has shown a pure particle called a virus that replicates in a host causing disease has been isolated
Can you be more specific. I'm not exactly sure what you are saying here and i don't want to reply with the wrong answer.
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That's right, any vaccine that is safe is not effective. The point of the vaccine is to create antibodies and an adaptive response which creates B and T cells, and then remembers for the next time the antigen comes at you (in you). But in order for the body to react in such a manner initially, there has to be harm, there has to be danger, the body needs to perceive something as a threat. If the CDC/FDA et al claim the vaccine is safe, that it does no harm, then it is not thus, effective.
I have a motion sensor alarm in my house, for protection, if it detects someone coming in un announced, it reacts. If i had a facial recognition system set up, and the person was not recognized and deemed a strange entity, an antigen, the alarm would go off.
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In a perfect world, just sticking to science would win out in the near-term. In the real world, one must understand who creates the false narrative and why in order to defeat it. For example, science facts don't really matter to the global warming - oops, climate change people. The why is: because it is a scam to move wealth to where global elite (like WEF) want it. Here is the latest example of how they work the narrative: https://discernreport.com/climate-maps-manipulated-to-deceive-people-and-keep-the-global-warming-scam-going/
Additionally, one must challenge the people who have accepted a false narrative and unfortunately many people are too brainwashed, or ideological, or lack critical thinking skills, so doing so with science AND real life stories of "what happened to me or my loved ones" is more effective than just sticking to the science.
The most important thing is to get those who were deceived to realise that the next time government mandates a medical intervention, they might be among the 'unlucky, very rare' who are killed or crippled by it.
Fear got them them into it, and only fear will get them out of the spell cast over them by a very sophisticated propaganda machine.
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This is spamming. Posting it once is quite sufficient.
Are you talking to me, or to Steve Kirch? Because he and i see it differently from you. For obvious reasons, posting once is never sufficient - like duh.
Can you provide a link to learn more about "If we stuck to molecules, to antibodies, to memory cells (which don't exist), to why any modified form of a virus or bacteria can't, won't, generate the proper and needed immune response - this then would have to addressed, challenged"?
By link, do you mean my article which goes into greater detail?
But yes, one would think, would hope it would be addressed - but that is unlikely to happen, since i am no one. The science of vaccines and the immune system is fraught with errors, contradictions and inconsistencies but again, it's me, a mouse roaring into the abyss...
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Not anti-vaxxer just pro-science, pro-safety, pro-effectiveness, or anti-haccines (they hack your cells' DNA!):
Dr. Theresa Deisher proved in a Senate 2013 hearing, that antiviral vaccines made from cell-lines from aborted babies had 2000% excess human DNA than the 10 ng FDA limit: the chagepoint in the autism growth from linear to exponential matched exactly at the different introduction times in 14 different countries! (adjusting for late diagnosis).
This was corroborated by an EPA changepoint study, a NYC pediatrician and others. The dataset is opened for anybody to try!
Papers at soundchoice.org
Her down to earth presentations at the end of this page:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
Autism is growing due to environmental factors as proven by EPA. Yet, EPA concurred with one of Deisher's changepoints in the trend that went from slow linear to exponential.
What caused 14 different changepoints at 14 different moments in 14 different countries? The introduction of the new anti-viral vaccines which had excess DNA (2000% more than the 10 ng FDA limit).
Also, many parents are having great success in curing certain types of autism with alternative treatments, under medical advise. Join the Telegram groups of vax injured.
WhatтАЩs your best way to wake-up those who donтАЩt want to open their eyes?
Please share your most effective wake-up strategies.
The more the awakened, the sooner this nightmare will be over!
For example, I start with this video (2 minutes):
https://odysee.com/@ImpossiblyWackedOutWorld:f/WTC-7-Free-Falling:8
(caveat: pot destroys your brainтАж Tom Petty, rest in peace)
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach and all 7 World Trade Center towers destroyed, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the owner, with his 2 grown up siblings, failed to show up for work (never skipped work before)тАж by the way, he took an insurance policy against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them. The inside information about the future 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!:
4 min. (0.75 speed):
https://rumble.com/v1jpdwl-a-911-conspiracy-theory-explained-in-5-minutes-by-james-corbett-classic.html
WhereтАЩs the plane for the 2nd Tower (WTC1)?
https://odysee.com/@N%C3%A9mesis2030:8/11WTC:3
Controlled demolition?
https://odysee.com/@covid2020:d/9-11-World-Trade-Center-..-Demolition-Control%C3%A9e-1:2
Why is 9/11 called a Pearl Harbor event? Both Churchill and Roosevelt were masons and plotted to get the reluctant USA into the war by provoking the Japs and letting Pearl Harbor (left the whole fleet defenseless and concentrated there as an easy candy to be taken from a kid, no radar warning from outer islands, etc.) and MUCH MORE:
Please read and watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050тАж written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: тАЬMaintain humanity under 500,000,000 тАж тАЭ
- J6: The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
It's such a mason manual that they organized the same J6 play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
- At least since the 90s, vaccines were weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA тАЬcontaminationтАЭ by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-HodgkinтАЩs lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
- COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- Wake up videos:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
- It's genocide for depopulation:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
- ItтАЩs the masons, who create counterfeited currencies (trillions of dollars and EUROS) and bought the listed corporations, media, healthcare, universities, parties and political careers:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
Now, are you really ready for this?:
The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Pllllleeeeease, on my knees, donтАЩt believe me, just do your own homework by searching the following in mojeek.com (includes crawl date filter), gigablast.com, startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, and maybe yandex.com (not Google, Bing, Yahoo censors). The key terms to test them? Child Satanic Ritual Abuse, Child Satanic Ritual Murder.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rpn5aj/i_have_found_the_perfect_uncensored_search_engines/
https://www.deepwebsiteslinks.com/uncensored-search-engines-for-anonymous-searching/
PS I'm sorry I'm linking to my own substack. ItтАЩs not self-promotion: I couldnтАЩt find better links but if you find anything better, I'd be glad to replace.
If you are a mason or know a mason, ask him to ask his 33┬░ master to put in writing and sign it, who is "the great architect" and that he is not Lucifer. If he refuses, then heтАЩll know who he is really serving, Satan: tell him to get out of masonry NOW. Sooner or later heтАЩll be required to trample on a cross to get to a higher degree.
President John Quincy Adams: тАЬMasonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.тАЭ
Confessions of a former mason (Serge Abad-Gallardo):
https://www.ncregister.com/interview/confessions-of-a-former-freemason-officer-converted-to-catholicism
Confessions of ex-illuminati Ronald Bernard (all lodges obey the same master, Satan):
http://youtu.be/JAhnCdXqPww
Confession of 33rd degree master mason - Masons worship deities/demons
https://rumble.com/v294ksc-words-from-33rd-degree-master-mason-rare-video-masons-worship-all-sorts-of-.html
Masonry's Satanic Connection
https://odysee.com/@HiddenTruths:c/Masonry's-Satanic-Connection:4
Masonry's Satanic Doctrine | From Their Own Books
https://rumble.com/v2wg24a-masonrys-satanic-doctrine-from-their-own-books.html
Do Freemasons Worship Luciferя╝Я Evidence They Don't Want You To See
https://odysee.com/@John_4-14:a/Do-Freemasons-Worship-Lucifer%EF%BC%9F-Evidence-They-Don't-Want-You-To-See-%EF%BD%9C-Hidden-Agendas---Walter-Veith:0
Satanic Ritual Abuse and Secret Societies [1995] [VHS]
https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/satanic-ritual-abuse-and-secret-societies-1995:3
Satanic Pedophilia Torture and Blood - Dark Satanic Secrets Revealed
https://odysee.com/@Gmail.com:52/822821884_Satanic-Pedophilia-Torture-and-Blood---Dark-Satanic-Secrets-Revealed:4
UNITED NATIONS LUCIFER AND THE LUCIFER TRUST
https://odysee.com/@dynosarus:c/UNITED-NATIONS-LUCIFER-AND-THE-LUCIFER-TRUST:4
The best way to have a real dialogue about vaccines being weaponized to handicap, infertilize and murder the тАЬover-populationтАЭ is to start with vaccine contamination: nobody could be in favor of contaminated pharmaceuticals.
1. Carcinogen SV40 in Oral Polio Vaccine: they knew it since the 60s but kept distributing it even until 2016 !!!
2. hCG in vaccines to infertilize women detected since the 90s: still going on
3. Thimerosal, aluminum, Mono-sodium Glutamate (MSG) and other NEUROTOXINS
4. Heavy metals
5. Human DNA 2000% in excess of FDA 10 ng limit (main driver towards autism, leukemia and non-Hodgkin cancer)
6. Graphene oxide in Flu and COVID shots but now with anything injectable (even dentist anesthesia, hospital IV, etc.).
7. SV40 genomic sequences and double-stranded DNA in mRNA COVID shots
8. Bluetooth nano-routers injected with COVID vaccines and inserted with swabs (which explains why they rejected the cheaper non-invasive saliva test).
Proof of criminal intent:
Points 7 and 8
Censoring and blocking 30+ COVID cures
Labeling the most lethal batches with a lethal code (howbad.info)
Blocking the real knowledge of effectiveness v. "adverse event" rate
That proves:
A. There's zero Government control
B. There's zero Manufacturer liability
C. There's zero Media coverage
D. All that, during decades and still going on, not only with vaccines but also with medicines, food&beverage additives, etc. Everything, even institutions have been weaponized!
E. There's zero political action to stop that (except RFK2 in the USA)
A school buddy told me "I know you make sense but if I recognize it's true, I won't be able to enjoy life anymore".
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
If we donтАЩt succeed, theyтАЩll succeed with their 6-sword lethal plan fully exposed here:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
Change goes in hand with the number of awakened! Thank you for sharing this to save lives!
Who cares what they "allow"???
I get your point, but we should all care that governments are conspiring with social media to censor free speech or expel any person they do not like. I'm certainly glad Elon Musk did, using his wealth to remove most of the vermin from one of the largest social media platforms.
Yes, of course, however, doesn't he still censor over there? I'm not on there just what I hear. I'm only on YT who is bad enough. Left FB years ago for that very reason. Boycotting usually helps.
Does that make me "vermin"? My account is still blocked, despite appeal, because I pointed out onchocerciasis (river blindness), ivermectin treats, is a human affliction. AI Elon Muskox apparently considers that "advocating suicide".
Hey, I wanted to let you know I got your email and asked Substack about it. I did all I could on my end, so I wish you the best of luck figuring this out.
Thanks. It started working again. Still seems an enigma.
The Vermin I am referring to are the pre-Musk hired employees, some ironically called "fact checkers" who censored and banned users (apparently like you) for any opinion other than their progressive opinions. They colluded with the totalitarians like Fauci and I believe that they should be held accountable for their role in suppressing information that would have saved hundreds of thousands of people.
ThatтАЩs a good analogy. I never thought of it that way, but itтАЩs true.
Well....vax safety advocates have been doing that for years. Sadly it falls on deaf ears. Covid at least woke up many of the Libertarian and Republican legislators. When we were fighting a mandatory childhood vaccination bill in Oregon in 2019, the Dem legislators just closed their ears and adopted blank stares when given the scientific data. They just continued to repeat the mantra that they were told by their corporate sponsors and their party superiors...."safe & effective" "vaccines work" "injuries are 1 in a million". One day after a particularly gruesome meeting with one of the state senators, I realized that she knew what I was telling her was correct, but somebody had her by the balls and she had to continue to pretend. Willful ignorance. BUT at least things are slowly changing on all sides but the progressive pharma subsidiary side.
Willful ignorance seems most apparent when the issue is critical to public health
If you don't adopt an approach like Denis Rancourt, you will operate within the nested modelling of thescienceтДв.
Many who recognise the fallacy and harm in a false medical framework still war within the framework so as to reinforce and boost the thing they think to be opposing. The lie of a false claim is in conflict with truth and that is where I feel to give witness - rather than make war on the lie from a counter claim that can be falsely engaged with as a way to smear, deny and discount as a boosting of the lie in its own terms.
The concept of immunology is flawed - the nature of anaphylaxis is ignored.
Vaccines do 'work' as weapons of stealth, the immunity in legal terms for the agenda has always been a driving ambition for lawlessness to plunder and abuse with impunity.
So I don't invest in 'anti' identities that then assume moral right to dictate 'correct' thinking.
The way we communicate needs to learn to be from the place we would find a shared worth - even when our respective thought and choices can be painfully conflicted.
There is a sense in which the energetics of the body hold memory. Have you no traumatic events in your life? But to that I add if your 'immunity' is really a masking out that then masks over the denial - are you not still 'loaded' with 'stuff' that shapes your life - unwitting - that may in some sense be retriggered or re-opened as unfinished business?
Does Gilbert Ling or Harold Hillman inform your concept of a cell?
Vested science is its own kind of bank issued currency.
Hi Binra - I am not sure of your statements, your points. I think there are 2 or 3 separate ones here. Could you possibly say them in one or 2 sentences so I can better grasp your key points. Thanks.
IтАЩm right there with you and so are many others.
The article is ready on my free page ;https://rev10.substack.com/p/vaccines-do-they-work-or-are-they
So true. Nothing has red-pilled more people than covid and the notorious jabs that went with it.
Iatrogenic medical industrial complexes are the number three killer in the US.
Add covid shots and it's certainly risen to #1.
ЁЯСН YUP
Ditto
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We didn't see it first 100x
That's why we keep posting it.
ASSHOLE
You are an asshole and your science sucks, it's no match for what I bring to the table. If it gets you angry you should go to instagram or somewhere where the debates are less spirited.
Where's my science on here nitwit?
Grow up. This isn't a page for your advertisement. Not angry just can't stand obnoxious assholes.
I can't see the comment you were replying to... Substack flows poorly. It doesn't flow like twitter or the other websites.
But still, this is a page for advertising. It's called social media for a reason.
Either way, you are one angry puppy. You should back away from the computer and go get some fresh air.
Tossing out everything is a possibly mistake since there are studies that show intertwining both allopathic with Natural/Chinese type medicine is a better way to health. Being well informed is also critical to making medical decisions. Lastly always get at least two opinions.
I understand why you feel this way and as a retired RN I too say, no more vaccines for me. The trust that safety studies are being done is now shown to be a PR lie. Breaks my heart to know this as IтАЩve been involved with many people who would have died except for allopathic medical advances, not necessarily because of vaccines.
Immunization goes way back in our country to 1790тАЩs when small pox was rampant. They used actual fluid from the pustules to vaccinate the people. Some died from the disease due to this method. Then it was noticed that milk maids did not get or transmit Small Pox. Then immunizing used Cow Pox as the vaccine.
What pharma is doing with this MRNA crap I terrible and is not a real vaccine it is genetic plain and simple. Where did this come from? From what I can tell some scientists who believe humans need to evolve to a greater god like form. ItтАЩs part of WEF platform which include eradicating a large swath of world population seen as expendable and unfit. I might be wrong but thatтАЩs right from the pit of hell supported by many world country leaders which includes Biden and King Charles.
You're definitely not. It's so clear now as to how we are being "treated" as patients. Medicine and Drs. has always been about control.
A lot of people are searching for accurate information now INDEED and some resources such as this seem to be missing protocols for WHAT THEY are describing be careful and be well
110% with you...anti-all modern medicine.
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WELL, your bad manners alone have convinced me. I will never go to your links.
So, if hitler was found to be alive all this time, living in Argentina - and he surfaced with a sure shot cure for 90 different cancers (he took the best science minds with him to exile) - we wouldn't listen to what he had to say - because of who he is?
Or, would we take his findings, hang him by his balls to die, and then go about applying his findings to modern medicine?
You are neither curious nor concerned...