Yes, agreed! I am very appreciative of Midwestern Doctor for writing this post. (And all his posts.) His fourth paragraph really sums up the situation perfectly, "Before we go any further.... It’s a perfect recipe for going insane."
I've written several times in comments here about caring for a family member who was diagnosed with a me…
Yes, agreed! I am very appreciative of Midwestern Doctor for writing this post. (And all his posts.) His fourth paragraph really sums up the situation perfectly, "Before we go any further.... It’s a perfect recipe for going insane."
I've written several times in comments here about caring for a family member who was diagnosed with a mental illness around the year 2000. This individual was well-educated with a doctorate degree. She'd gone through very difficult and stressful experiences in a short period of time and started to experience panic and anxiety. We naively (stupidly) thought the medical system would help her-- provide some cognitive therapy, get her back on track. Instead, they destroyed her, assaulted and restrained her, and put her on drugs that turned her into a walking zombie almost overnight. The extreme weight gain was instantaneous-- she went from a cute, athletic 35-year-old, to an overweight, middle-aged woman that could barely function. When we as family got involved, the gaslighting re-focused on us along with threats of "putting her away forever." It was a horrible time and that continued for years as we tried to navigate the system with an electronic medical record that followed her wherever she went.
About 10 years ago, we took the advice you give to others (VERY GOOD ADVICE) to find a physician that you pay directly. (While still in the system for catastrophic care, we pay outside for primary care.) The difference was like night and day. From there, we started on a journey of herbs, supplements, peptides, nutrition, blood work, etc. to try and undo the damage that had been done. And, we've largely been successful. Starting from a point over 10 years ago where she could barely draw the face on a clock or remember 3 words (standard memory test stuff), she now functions mostly independently and autonomously in a loving home with other family members around for support.
However, although we're in a pretty good place now, when I think about our past experiences or contemplate having to go back into "the system" for any tests or procedures, I almost have a panic attack. I think it is the PTSD from years of being abused and gas-lit not only by "the system," but also by the providers. I respectfully disagree with MWD that most providers are well meaning.... I am not a combative person, and I don't think I come across that way, but I have encountered some of the most evil, mean, nasty people in the medical system that I have ever met. They are so self-assured that they are right; they have no curiosity in looking beyond the surface, of digging beyond to find out why this has happened. If you even suggest that maybe there could be something further, they turn on you-- and they are mean. I don't think these people have any insight into how their decisions or power can destroy a life (and at the same time, a whole family) forever. As family members, we're the ones that have to continue on and pick up the pieces.
I've given a lot of thought to this, and I'm not sure why this evil is. Maybe because absolute power corrupts absolutely. Maybe it's because as C.S. Lewis said, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." I don't know. All I know is that the medial system destroyed our family and someone we love. And our lives have been forever changed.
Just as an addendum, we use a health sharing plan (Liberty). When I left my full time job, we went with them (Christian Health Share, Samaritan, Medishare, etc are other) we joined Liberty Health Share. Cost - I kid you not - was 1/3 of our "regular" insurance, with MUCH BETTER coverage. Hmm.... better coverage for 1/3 of the price. Even tho I slept thru jr. high math, even **I** can do that kind math!
How do they do it? As you probably know, they don't pay rack rate (no $50 for that aspirin the nurse gave you), and they require no smoking, no drugs, minimal alcohol, and church attendance (some health share plans only require committment to liberty, they all vary).
Anyhow, WHY anyone would NOT use these vehicles are utterly beyond me.
Sassy, thank you for sharing your story. What you've been through for your loved one is horrific. I'm consoled to know it's behind you. In support of what you're saying, especially about being part of "the system," I decided yesterday that I will leave my allopathic doctor after 5 years. After a severe vaccine injury, which she acknowledged as my diagnosis at my first follow up appoint 1 year ago, she has now changed her tune. She is now saying that I never did have a vaccine injury and I don't now. The anger in her voice was palpable, cold, hostile even. She used to be kind, thoughtful, and actually helpful (pre-COVID). What has happened to our doctors? They have lost their minds....sold their soul to Big Pharma. Maybe it's because they just can't carry the weight of what they've done to kill and mame thousands of people after taking an oath of "first do no harm." Tyranny. No ownership. Too many big houses and boats to pay for. The whole system needs to be blown up. Big Pharma, Insurance, conventional medicine....all of it. I'm researching "direct pay" integrative doctors now.
Good for you! What a horrible, upsetting experience to have your doctor turn on you like that. Yes, while this was under the surface before, something has happened during COVID. I wish you well on your journey.
While you are in the process of looking for new medical care options, here are some things we've used that may be helpful. (You may already know about them....) 1. Labs - If you want to check your own labs like CBC, Comprehensive Metabolic Panel, etc. you can self-pay and go through Lab Corp (my preference) or Quest without a doctor's order. It's more expensive, but a good option if you need it. There's a lot you can learn from following your own labs over time. 2. Micronutrient Profile - This is offered by SpectraCell and looks at intracellular uptake of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and more. I believe you can order this without an MD order. It can give you a picture of how well any supplements are being absorbed and if there are major deficiencies. 3. We've found naturopaths, functional medicine providers, as well as longevity providers to be helpful as they all look at labs, nutrition, herbs, supplements, peptides, etc. to help you body heal itself. 4. Lyme disease doctors (at least the good ones) have been looking at things like inflammation, cellular and mitochondrial health, and how to heal these, long before COVID came around. Two of my favorite go-to doctors for information on these topics are vitalplan.com (also he has another website rawlsmd.com) and treatlyme.net. You can learn so much from them that is applicable to everyone for systemic health and not just for Lyme disease. They also have regular webinars that are very interesting and informative.
In Australia you can also be de identified if you would prefer. Use the correct year of birth and gender (for accuracy of range) but different day and month. As this is not claimable on Medicare your name can also be altered (see below).
Your Privacy is important to us
****How It Works
Simply use the first two letters of your first name and the first two letters of your surname at the checkout in the 'details for Pathology referral' section
It is important that you use your correct date of birth so that the reference ranges will be correct for your age group. ****
People will do about anything rather than admit they were wrong. She herself may have told people to get the shot. Now she knows the horror of what she has done, and the oh no, since I was indeed wrong, how is this going to hurt ME thought is running through her head. She may be getting sued for something or another doctor friend of hers is being sued. Can't have that now. So guess what. That diagnosis of vax injury didn't happen.
Did a little more research (Open Payments database) and found the head of the practice (of about 5 MDs) has been receiving payments from Big Pharma for roughly $98,0000.
I began having panic attacks after a traumatic event. I eventually started taking sertraline (Zoloft) and it upended my life. I became very depressed, made some very bad life choices,and didn’t realize it was caused by taking this drug until I finally quit taking it. It took a couple of years for my head to clear. I have since learned of suicides related to this highly prescribed drug. I never got there but I can understand how it could happen. Nancy Reagan was right: Just Say No.
Yes! I'm so sorry, but glad you were able to recognize the damage Zoloft was doing, get off of it, and believe in yourself while you took time for your head to clear. Sadly, many never do. You have an important story to tell. I have long suspected that some/many of these school shootings we see are a symptom of putting our children on antipsychotics and other mental health drugs.
Maybe it’s time we had a national discussion about his cronies and lobbyists in Big Pharma, who seem to push kids into the latest drug du jour at the drop of a hat? Or doesn’t that fit the political agenda and his “never let a crisis go to waste” attitude?
If anyone is wondering why the US leads in school gun murders, perhaps you might want to explore the relationship between drugging our kids and violence. Note that not only are school gun murders up, but youth suicides are up dramatically was well. This shouldn’t be surprising, of course, as both are cut from the same cloth – disinhibition, messing with brain function, disturbing the level of self-control, and more. Granting that correlation is not causation, Dr. Bertram Karon from Michigan State Univ. notes the US has six times as many children on Ritalin, around four million, as any other country, and all of France only has 8,000 kids, in total, on Ritalin, while his home city of Lansing Michigan, alone, has around that many. In fact, the US accounts for around 90% of Ritalin prescriptions in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuDvwSOFto&sns=fb
Samantha, I wish them well. Encourage your friend to not give up on hope! While the journey has been painful and traumatic, I don't regret for one instance advocating as we have. It's just taken a while to learn and figure out which pathway to take.
I think you are touching what a sociopath is. You don't tell a sociopath that they are harming you. They know they are harming you and they like harming you. They get paid to harm you too. Why would they stop?
With that I am NOT saying all doctor/nurses are sociopaths at all. I have met some really amazing doctors/nurses in my life. But I do think the power they have over someone tends to attract sociopaths. People got to stop thinking that all doctors/nurses care about people. Some simply don't care.
God blesses you as He helps you out of this critical time with overbearing doctors. May you and your loved one go forward happily and in good health. Trust in God first. Thank you for sharing.
Midwestern Doc is everything that is good about this country, and a signpost to the road back: Intelligence, compassion, hard work, ethics. One MWD (Midwestern Doctor) equals 1,000 fasco-Marxist Faux-i, Birxes, etc.
And yes, Lewis' quote is spot on... as was his prescient 75 year old book which predicted exactly everything we are seeing, That Hideous Strength.
Yes, agreed! I am very appreciative of Midwestern Doctor for writing this post. (And all his posts.) His fourth paragraph really sums up the situation perfectly, "Before we go any further.... It’s a perfect recipe for going insane."
I've written several times in comments here about caring for a family member who was diagnosed with a mental illness around the year 2000. This individual was well-educated with a doctorate degree. She'd gone through very difficult and stressful experiences in a short period of time and started to experience panic and anxiety. We naively (stupidly) thought the medical system would help her-- provide some cognitive therapy, get her back on track. Instead, they destroyed her, assaulted and restrained her, and put her on drugs that turned her into a walking zombie almost overnight. The extreme weight gain was instantaneous-- she went from a cute, athletic 35-year-old, to an overweight, middle-aged woman that could barely function. When we as family got involved, the gaslighting re-focused on us along with threats of "putting her away forever." It was a horrible time and that continued for years as we tried to navigate the system with an electronic medical record that followed her wherever she went.
About 10 years ago, we took the advice you give to others (VERY GOOD ADVICE) to find a physician that you pay directly. (While still in the system for catastrophic care, we pay outside for primary care.) The difference was like night and day. From there, we started on a journey of herbs, supplements, peptides, nutrition, blood work, etc. to try and undo the damage that had been done. And, we've largely been successful. Starting from a point over 10 years ago where she could barely draw the face on a clock or remember 3 words (standard memory test stuff), she now functions mostly independently and autonomously in a loving home with other family members around for support.
However, although we're in a pretty good place now, when I think about our past experiences or contemplate having to go back into "the system" for any tests or procedures, I almost have a panic attack. I think it is the PTSD from years of being abused and gas-lit not only by "the system," but also by the providers. I respectfully disagree with MWD that most providers are well meaning.... I am not a combative person, and I don't think I come across that way, but I have encountered some of the most evil, mean, nasty people in the medical system that I have ever met. They are so self-assured that they are right; they have no curiosity in looking beyond the surface, of digging beyond to find out why this has happened. If you even suggest that maybe there could be something further, they turn on you-- and they are mean. I don't think these people have any insight into how their decisions or power can destroy a life (and at the same time, a whole family) forever. As family members, we're the ones that have to continue on and pick up the pieces.
I've given a lot of thought to this, and I'm not sure why this evil is. Maybe because absolute power corrupts absolutely. Maybe it's because as C.S. Lewis said, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." I don't know. All I know is that the medial system destroyed our family and someone we love. And our lives have been forever changed.
It genuinely makes me sad I have to give that advice but that's the way things are.
Just as an addendum, we use a health sharing plan (Liberty). When I left my full time job, we went with them (Christian Health Share, Samaritan, Medishare, etc are other) we joined Liberty Health Share. Cost - I kid you not - was 1/3 of our "regular" insurance, with MUCH BETTER coverage. Hmm.... better coverage for 1/3 of the price. Even tho I slept thru jr. high math, even **I** can do that kind math!
How do they do it? As you probably know, they don't pay rack rate (no $50 for that aspirin the nurse gave you), and they require no smoking, no drugs, minimal alcohol, and church attendance (some health share plans only require committment to liberty, they all vary).
Anyhow, WHY anyone would NOT use these vehicles are utterly beyond me.
Sassy, thank you for sharing your story. What you've been through for your loved one is horrific. I'm consoled to know it's behind you. In support of what you're saying, especially about being part of "the system," I decided yesterday that I will leave my allopathic doctor after 5 years. After a severe vaccine injury, which she acknowledged as my diagnosis at my first follow up appoint 1 year ago, she has now changed her tune. She is now saying that I never did have a vaccine injury and I don't now. The anger in her voice was palpable, cold, hostile even. She used to be kind, thoughtful, and actually helpful (pre-COVID). What has happened to our doctors? They have lost their minds....sold their soul to Big Pharma. Maybe it's because they just can't carry the weight of what they've done to kill and mame thousands of people after taking an oath of "first do no harm." Tyranny. No ownership. Too many big houses and boats to pay for. The whole system needs to be blown up. Big Pharma, Insurance, conventional medicine....all of it. I'm researching "direct pay" integrative doctors now.
People often get quite upset when you speak blasphemy against their religion.
Good for you! What a horrible, upsetting experience to have your doctor turn on you like that. Yes, while this was under the surface before, something has happened during COVID. I wish you well on your journey.
While you are in the process of looking for new medical care options, here are some things we've used that may be helpful. (You may already know about them....) 1. Labs - If you want to check your own labs like CBC, Comprehensive Metabolic Panel, etc. you can self-pay and go through Lab Corp (my preference) or Quest without a doctor's order. It's more expensive, but a good option if you need it. There's a lot you can learn from following your own labs over time. 2. Micronutrient Profile - This is offered by SpectraCell and looks at intracellular uptake of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and more. I believe you can order this without an MD order. It can give you a picture of how well any supplements are being absorbed and if there are major deficiencies. 3. We've found naturopaths, functional medicine providers, as well as longevity providers to be helpful as they all look at labs, nutrition, herbs, supplements, peptides, etc. to help you body heal itself. 4. Lyme disease doctors (at least the good ones) have been looking at things like inflammation, cellular and mitochondrial health, and how to heal these, long before COVID came around. Two of my favorite go-to doctors for information on these topics are vitalplan.com (also he has another website rawlsmd.com) and treatlyme.net. You can learn so much from them that is applicable to everyone for systemic health and not just for Lyme disease. They also have regular webinars that are very interesting and informative.
Good luck on your journey for health!
Yes. Self referred blood/pathology tests are certainly becoming more popular. https://imedical.com.au/order/comprehensive-blood-testing-immunization-services
https://imedical.com.au/order/collection-centres
In Australia you can also be de identified if you would prefer. Use the correct year of birth and gender (for accuracy of range) but different day and month. As this is not claimable on Medicare your name can also be altered (see below).
Your Privacy is important to us
****How It Works
Simply use the first two letters of your first name and the first two letters of your surname at the checkout in the 'details for Pathology referral' section
It is important that you use your correct date of birth so that the reference ranges will be correct for your age group. ****
Thank you for this Miriam Maxander PhD I, for one did not know it is available in Australia little less that you can de
identify. Thanks 👍😊
People will do about anything rather than admit they were wrong. She herself may have told people to get the shot. Now she knows the horror of what she has done, and the oh no, since I was indeed wrong, how is this going to hurt ME thought is running through her head. She may be getting sued for something or another doctor friend of hers is being sued. Can't have that now. So guess what. That diagnosis of vax injury didn't happen.
Did a little more research (Open Payments database) and found the head of the practice (of about 5 MDs) has been receiving payments from Big Pharma for roughly $98,0000.
I began having panic attacks after a traumatic event. I eventually started taking sertraline (Zoloft) and it upended my life. I became very depressed, made some very bad life choices,and didn’t realize it was caused by taking this drug until I finally quit taking it. It took a couple of years for my head to clear. I have since learned of suicides related to this highly prescribed drug. I never got there but I can understand how it could happen. Nancy Reagan was right: Just Say No.
Reagan's VP Bush was also largely responsible for getting those drugs on the market.
Of course. Cronyism.
Yes! I'm so sorry, but glad you were able to recognize the damage Zoloft was doing, get off of it, and believe in yourself while you took time for your head to clear. Sadly, many never do. You have an important story to tell. I have long suspected that some/many of these school shootings we see are a symptom of putting our children on antipsychotics and other mental health drugs.
I can’t image what it could do to a young mind. I was in my mid-50s.
I personally know two young people victimized by this drug. One made it through, one killed himself. I’m glad, more than glad, you’re okay.
Quite a few readers on here know people who severely affected by those drugs.
Every single antidepressant pill I was prescribed in the past always made me feel much worse and depressed. Stopped taking them long, long ago.
Thank you. I don’t even know why I stopped taking it, except for possible Divine Intervention.
Sandy Hook CT. shooter Adam Lanza was on a violence-linked anti-psychotic drug called Fanapt, as reported at http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12 or http://naturalsociety.com/predictions-confirmed-shooter-adam-lanza-was-on-violence-linked-anti-psychotic-fanapt/. The Fanapt story was later retracted, but family friend of the Lanzas, Louise Tambascio, stated during an interview with 60 Minutes that “I know he was on medication and everything, but she homeschooled him at home cause he couldn’t deal with the school classes sometimes, so she just homeschooled Adam at home. And that was her life.” http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/16/friends-newtown-gunmans-mother-home-schooled-son-kept-arsenal-of-guns/ Tambascio also told ABC News, “I knew he was on medication, but that’s all I know.” http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/16/friends-newtown-gunmans-mother-home-schooled-son-kept-arsenal-of-guns/ Lanza’s old babysitter, Ryan Kraft, also went on record as stating Lanza was taking medications of this sort early as age 10.
Maybe it’s time we had a national discussion about his cronies and lobbyists in Big Pharma, who seem to push kids into the latest drug du jour at the drop of a hat? Or doesn’t that fit the political agenda and his “never let a crisis go to waste” attitude?
It is already on the labels themselves that drugs, like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, and Ritalin are causing people to commit violent acts (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QheBbuC5UU&feature=player_embedded#t=91s where a number of reputable psychiatrists comment on this issue). Read the documentation in the drug packages, or online, yourself – it’s right there in black and white. The top ten psychiatric prescription drugs linked to violence – as listed by Time Magazine - in a Jan. 7th, 2011 article at http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/07/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-violence/#ixzz2FNH7YyEl - are the antidepressant/anti-anxiety drugs desvenlafaxine (Pristiq), venlafaxine (Effexor), fluvoxamine (Luvox), paroxetine (Paxil), fluoxetine (Prozac), sleep aid Halcion, ADHD drug Strattera, several brands of amphetamines used to treat ADHD, the anti-malarial Lariam, and the anti-smoking medication Chantix. See also http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/07/top-ten-legal-drugs-linked-to-violence/#ixzz2G16Hp6aG. Of course James Holmes in the Colorado massacre was also on psychotropic drugs, including a generic version of Zoloft called Sertraline, as well as clonazepam see http://www.naturalnews.com/039796_James_Holmes_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html or http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-documents-20130405,0,6067279.story.) Yet a further analysis of the association of prescription drugs with violence and shootings, from Brandon Turbeville, is at http://www.thedailysheeple.com/psychiatric-drugs-school-violence-and-the-big-pharma-cover-up_012013, while internationally known psychiatrist Dr. David Healy agrees with the summary that these drugs cause violence – a Cliff Notes version of Healy’s sentiments is simply this: Psychotropic drugs “prescribed for school children cause violent behavior.” The non-Cliff Notes, detailed version of his rationale behind this may be found at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/top-psychiatrist-meds-behind-school-massacres/ Healy has a website, RxISK.org, that allows people to post personal experiences with SSRIs, and is a data repository open to the public.
If anyone is wondering why the US leads in school gun murders, perhaps you might want to explore the relationship between drugging our kids and violence. Note that not only are school gun murders up, but youth suicides are up dramatically was well. This shouldn’t be surprising, of course, as both are cut from the same cloth – disinhibition, messing with brain function, disturbing the level of self-control, and more. Granting that correlation is not causation, Dr. Bertram Karon from Michigan State Univ. notes the US has six times as many children on Ritalin, around four million, as any other country, and all of France only has 8,000 kids, in total, on Ritalin, while his home city of Lansing Michigan, alone, has around that many. In fact, the US accounts for around 90% of Ritalin prescriptions in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuDvwSOFto&sns=fb
Thank you for sharing this. I took screenshots because I know someone who may benefit from your story.
Samantha, I wish them well. Encourage your friend to not give up on hope! While the journey has been painful and traumatic, I don't regret for one instance advocating as we have. It's just taken a while to learn and figure out which pathway to take.
Thank you, Sassy. I will let them know.
I think you are touching what a sociopath is. You don't tell a sociopath that they are harming you. They know they are harming you and they like harming you. They get paid to harm you too. Why would they stop?
With that I am NOT saying all doctor/nurses are sociopaths at all. I have met some really amazing doctors/nurses in my life. But I do think the power they have over someone tends to attract sociopaths. People got to stop thinking that all doctors/nurses care about people. Some simply don't care.
God blesses you as He helps you out of this critical time with overbearing doctors. May you and your loved one go forward happily and in good health. Trust in God first. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you, Marsha.
Prayers, reading with tears....
Sassy, you are correct. Many of today’s crop of medical professionals are egotistical, lacking in humility, and downright nasty.
Yes, it is so sad. The most vulnerable suffer because of it.
Midwestern Doc is everything that is good about this country, and a signpost to the road back: Intelligence, compassion, hard work, ethics. One MWD (Midwestern Doctor) equals 1,000 fasco-Marxist Faux-i, Birxes, etc.
And yes, Lewis' quote is spot on... as was his prescient 75 year old book which predicted exactly everything we are seeing, That Hideous Strength.