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Allen's avatar

The biggest living example of medical gaslighting underway since Spring 2020 is what happened in the hospitals and how that is being covered up.

This is a huge problem that the more prominent "Covid oppositional celebrities" ignore which covers up the actual crimes that were committed.

Watch- few will discuss this as they try to rationalize away why this can't be talked about.

These crimes afflicted mainly the elderly who were vulnerable, the poor and the disabled and most of these people came from insitutional settings.

There was no viral event that caused mass death, that 6 week "spike" seen in Spring 2020 was entirely due to administrative slaughter and hospicide- this is well documented.

To remain ignorant on this matter and/or sidestep these facts is inexcusable at this point for anyone who sits at the head of the table of the "Covid dissidents." All of the “Covid deaths” are fraudulent and inventions from the Pharma/medical/media cartel. The vast majority are medical murder.

Why do the top tier "Covid dissidents" like Bigtree, Kirsch, RFK, Malone, Cole etc., avoid these facts and not cover this regularly. It's disingenuous at best- I find it disgraceful.

The biggest story emanating from the foundational fraud of the manufactured pandemic is the mass murder of milliions of people through mass medical slaughter/hospicide/eldercide.

That was what launched the perception that there was a "deadly pandemic"- there wasn't.

All else flows from that.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

I believe it's because they feel if they take a position that is too radical or too confusing, it will blow their credibility to the public on the primary issues they are moving forward (especially since the degree to which COVID exists is an extremely nuanced subject).

If you want to be effective in politics and changing public opinion, you always have to do that.

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Allen's avatar

Doesn't work.

Much of the public is way ahead of these so-called "Covid oppositional celebrities."

Lies of omission is bad policy. As a political tactic it has a history of failure.

The line you used is just a poor rationalization. This is usually used to provide a justification for continuing to please donors.

Further it is an insult to those in the trenches who have had their loved ones killed by medical murder- "shhh- can't talk about the public isn't ready."

Disgraceful.

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Goeff's avatar

True. Even someone with the stature and credibility of the famous Dorothy Thompson can get thrown under the bus for standing up for the truth.

She shared a lot of the fate of many whistleblowers and truth tellers and her story is worth a read even if it is only the WIki entry. All of these things tie together in very important ways.

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Goeff's avatar

"All of the “Covid deaths” are fraudulent..."

Most of the diagnoses are as well.

Especially since early on, the diagnosis was made on a "positive" PCR technique, which was not designed to be a test at all according to Mullis, who invented the procedure.

In my social circle I meet a lot of health care personnel, especially doctors, and when they'd make the statement that so and so had "COVID," I'd ask them how they knew that. It was always "they had a positive PCR" at least til other tests came along. Not one ever believed me when I told them that it was not designed as a test. Also, apparently not one of them ever heard of false positive results and accepted a positive PCR as "gospel," symptoms or no.

As far as attempting to initiate a collaborative approach, I would guess a person would be battling a headwind since so many docs don't have a clue as to how little they actually know and that goes particularly for the young ones. They, like many young folk, act like they're convinced that they know everything. Part of it is the arrogance of youth coupled with a position of authority and a decent paycheck. I've long been amused at how people tend to act if they think they have a buck or two more than the next guy.

The other problem I see is that traditionally the route to obtaining medical training has been highly competitive so the ones that come through that come out thinking they must be gawd's gift to the world, a suspicion they no doubt harbored since forever. It's part of a the larger problem of handing out degrees to anyone and everyone able to get a loan and giving them some certificate that proves, in their (rather limited) minds, that they must have all the answers.

Ben Franklin, at the tender age of 16 and with two years of formal schooling under his hat wrote this editorial as "Silence Dogood." He was poking fun at the graduates of "Haw-vawd."

“I reflected in my Mind on the extream Folly of those Parents, who, blind to their Childrens Dulness, and insensible of the Solidity of their Skulls, because they think their Purses can afford it, will needs send them to the Temple of Learning, where, for want of a suitable Genius, they learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely, and enter a Room genteely, (which might as well be acquir’d at a Dancing-School,) and from whence they return, after Abundance of Trouble and Charge, as great Blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited.”

Silence Dogood

(Silence Dogood, No. 4)

Printed in The New-England Courant, May 14, 1722.

https://franklinpapers.org/framedVolumes.jsp

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Sumotoad's avatar

Before I was a pharmacist I worked in a coal-fired power plant as a chemist. One of the techs there had a Harvard MBA, and he was absolutely one of the dumbest individuals I’ve ever known in my life.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

I always appreciate it when someone makes the point to repeatedly tell you they went to Harvard ;)

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James Dawson's avatar

“You can always tell a Harvard man. You just can’t tell him much.”

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Goeff's avatar

Because they haven't the capacity to learn much.

Even Ben Franklin made the point. Did you notice the "Silence Dogood" quote I posted? If not, you'll probably get a hoot out of it.

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Nora's avatar

Best response: "Oh really? I couldn't tell."

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Jean Mac's avatar

Like the Colonel I worked under. Terrible officer. “West Point this, West Point that...” was his mantra.

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Eleni's avatar

Yes, big egos indeed. We can, in part, thank the education system in America for that one.

They make it seem as if there are only a few universities every child must attend to be able to have any worth in society.

Shameful.

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Goeff's avatar

It's a brainwashing, obedient worker training, adolescent prolonging, narcissism promoting, and debt slavery system. To be avoided because no one really needs what they offer and it produces pompous mental and spiritual cripples who can obviously be rather easily manipulated through false promises and a herd mentality. All that is just for starters.

Tragic.

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Eleni's avatar

Accurate analysis. I will also include predictive programming in your list, as this contributes to the constantly confused mind and creates a permanent state of cognitive dissonance.

Good to chat with you, Goeff.

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SaHiB's avatar

Covid diagnoses are based on chest CT showing bronchial inflammation. (NB: Not generally advised because it causes high radiation exposure.)

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

There are also fairly distinct laboratory values you don't see in other infections.

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SaHiB's avatar

That could be fascinating. My PharmD nephew mentioned the CT findings in March 2020. I've heard almost nothing except PCR, and slight mention of antigens and antibodies, in the lamestream press. By "other infections" do you mean coronaviruses generally, or SARS/covid specifically? I noticed no bronchial inflammation from Omicron.

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Goeff's avatar

Well maybe they should be, but most seem to rely on the PCR "test" and maybe some antibody test. I doubt many patients have had a chest CT.

My point was that the true rate of infection is unknown because many doctors themselves haven't a clue as to how to diagnose it. Utterly ineffable incompetance or insouciance or worse.

"Caveat emptor" applies in spades when dealing with the commercial-medical complex.

Having lived in a neighborhood full of health care "professionals" who worked at a nearby "renowned" medical center opened my eyes to another side of reality. The general lack of integrity and humility was shocking with vanishingly few exceptions.

"… but man, proud man!

Dress'd in a little brief authority,—

Most ignorant of what he's most assured,

His glassy essence,—like an angry ape,

Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven

As makes the angels weep; who, with our spleens,

Would all themselves laugh mortal."

MEASURE FOR MEASURE Act2, Scene 2.

by William Shakespeare

https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1530/pg1530.html

Even with his erroneous idea regarding the spleen, I think Shakespeare would've made a better physician than a lot of what we're burdened with today!

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James Dawson's avatar

Via Remdisivir here and Midazolam in UK

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Charlotte Z's avatar

I have a friend that lives in a small town in the midwest who worked at a nursing home in their activities department for several years but had to change jobs because all the residents were dying like flies at the beginning of the fake plandemic. It was even closed for awhile until they were able to recruit more residents. I asked my friend what she thought caused the deaths. She had no clue. I assume it was from the vaccinations.

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Jjule's avatar

My brother was murdered in hospital.

Fauci death protocol

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Allen's avatar

Sorry to hear this.

If you want that story documented and wish to look into legal action I can facilitate this.

https://chbmp.org/cases/

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Sassy Goatherd's avatar

I'm so very sorry! Your brother's death is heartbreaking and tragic. It should not have been.

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Eleni's avatar

Terrible. Every case. So sorry.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

You're correct this was a psyop not a medical threat but your criticism of dissenting voices seems harsh and unfounded. This scamdemic has many facets that only a handful are reporting and in the cases of Del & RFK Jr. they have significant roles in legal actions striking down mandates which is essential to preserving individual sovereignty & no small issue.

CHD did a round table about disappearing flu deaths & fraud of novel cause of illness. Between tech censorship and activists spread thin it's hard to find but absence of high profile search results is far from confirmation it is not happening!

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rfk-jr-podcast-flu-data/

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Allen's avatar

CHD has been terrible on what I just referenced.

They have had nmultiple, multiple people reach out to them on this, including myself, and they have equivocated and dodged it at every turn. It's reprehensible. Too bad if that punctures one of your sacred cows it's the truth.

My criticism is harsh and rightfully so. Unfounded? Hardly- it is founded on countless examples that illustrate the veracity of what I said.

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Anja's avatar

You know, there is one thing about truth, or even TRUTH: you can hold it up to someone, so he can slip into it like into a coat, or you can slap it into his face like a wet rag.😐😐

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Allen's avatar

Or in this case you can camouflage it or cover it up with a thousand distractions and excuses.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

There are no sacred cows and pretty insulting to resort to name calling when you have no flippin clue what my values may be. It always amazes me as an activist for 25 years in the toxic product & policy space how folks who have no record of accomplishments in the public debate rather take shots at the fighters for not sharing their priorities than put that effort into aiming for dirtbags.

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A Midwestern Doctor's avatar

It's incredibly hard to be in any type of a leadership role for a movement and I am incredibly grateful I am able to put out positive messages I believe can lead things in a good direction without simultaneously having to be responsible for all the extra things one of those roles entails.

Some of what Allen says here is spot on, other things I strongly disagree with, but I believe it's important to have both sides of each issue be presented even when I don't agree with him. That said, like you, I do not believe in attacking people I believe are genuinely trying to make things better.

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Sassy Goatherd's avatar

Yes. Paul Alexander frequently discusses this in his substack: https://substack.com/profile/58916651-dr-paul-alexander

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Goeff's avatar

Thanks for that. All of Thucydides is worth a read.

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Tami Berman's avatar

Maybe because they are controlled opposition.

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PamelaDrew's avatar

My Washington career spanned Watergate to Poppy Bush when the level of corruption was too deep for me to take part.. this isn't my first rodeo. Controlled opposition exists but the term it is as abused as conspiracy theory & serves as a dismissal w baseless label... spare me BS.

Mathew Crawford has done some great work with other activist sleuths identifying chaos agents. Stop wasting time, energy and good karma finding fault with what others don't do for you & focus on doing more yourself or targeting verified problems.

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-attack-dog-barks-part-2

https://rumble.com/v28yjc2-chaos-agents-themis-report-author-revealed.html

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